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Ok, how about Multiprocessors? What do you guys think about those?
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Just wondering If Mac OS X doesn't use resource forks (or whatever), what will happen to plug-ins for EV/EVO?
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Good question. Andrew? Matt? Jude
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Resource forks can be converted into packages. As far as I know, the process is automatic when copying to a file system that doesn't support packages. There is also, as far as I know, a small utility that will convert the resource fork of a file to a package.
Wait, you can't use old PPC and 68k apps on OS X DP. Currently you have to boot OS 9 to run these old file types. I am starting to think this "carbon" crap is really just OS 9 on top of OS X. I have heard nothing different from Apple...
I don't think we will have to worry about EV not running because of resource forks, but rather because it is a 68k/PPC app...
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Quick question; is there any advantage/disadvantage to using these package thingies over the good 'ole resource fork?
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Originally posted by Obormot: Get into the Unix spirit, comrade! It's called /. (the root level)
Actually, root isn't the desktop. Desktop Folder would be /Macintosh HD/Desktop Folder.
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(This message has been edited by Andrew M (edited 05-23-2000).)
Originally posted by Andrew M: **Actually, root isn't the desktop. Desktop Folder would be /Macintosh HD/Desktop Folder.
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Well, you could think of it that way. But think how partitions and different disks are mounted in Unix/Linux. It's all /something. Besides, I only use my desktop for easy access to icons (aliases), anyway.
By the way; what'll be done about forbidden characters in filenames, such as spaces and such? I like having files named "My Mad Phat Cool Pupsiik Stuff, Man".
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Actually the desktop folder (at least right now) resides in /usr/(user name)/desktop/
This allows every individual user to have their own unique desktop folder.
The only disadvantage to packages that I'm aware of, is that Apple hasn't properly dealt with metadata yet.
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Existing files with resource forks will still work fine -- how else could the Classic environment work?
Packages have an advantage over resource forks in that they're more flexible, the data is stored as regular files, (gifs, tiffs, AIFFs, text files, whatever) and they don't get screwed up when transported cross-platform.
There will be a desktop in OS X. OS X does not use a linux kernel. It will not require a Command Line interface to use -- although there will be one available for those who wish to use it. It is based on the most secure free unix out there, BSD. It should in fact be very user-friendly. Don't knock it unless you've gotten a chance to use it.
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I've actually gotten a chance to use OS X Server; my school got, and since I'm a tech support person, I have access. It's pretty cool. Of course, I hear the client version is much cooler, obviously.
Having a unique desktop per user is certainly a proper extesnion of standard Unix home directories, that's cool.
Kberg - what's metadata?
Metadata contains quite a few things. Stuff like window sizes and positions, cursor insertion points in documents, ect. I think metadata also includes the type and creator fields which allow macs to function without filename extensions...
Originally posted by kberg: That's really strange, why is m e t a a censored word??
Someone was screwing with mta tags months ago on Banter & Brawl
I installed OS X dp4 the other day -- it's looking quite a bit nicer than dp3. I think y'all will be pleasantly surprised when you actually get your hands on the shipping version (next year) or the public beta (this summer).
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BTW, has anyone heard of any REALLY good online games for the Mac or both lately? Thanks (/b)
I'd reccomend Starcraft over the Warcraft 2 Battle.net edition. I have both and I can tell you that the Starcraft Battle Chest would be a better investment than Warcraft II, unless you don't like games that have a little blood at times. Warcraft II gets boring quickly, but as far as I know Starcraft never gets boring.
Also you can find the Mac versions of both games retail, due to the wonderful invention of the hybrid CD, at places like Wal-Mart (at least in the US).
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Yeah, I have Starcraft, but since I (Ahem) suck, it can get prety boring at times. I need to learn some new strategies. But, back to Mac OS X:
andrew, do you know if Linux programs work in Mac OS X, and can the be mounted on the Desktop or somewhere in the Finder? Thanks. (Anybody can answer, of course!)
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That depends on what you mean. If you mean commandline BSD-type programs, than yes, they'll work just fine. If you mean GUI stuff (Gimp, games, etc.) then no -- unless they ship as source code and you somehow manage to get them to recompile and work properly, and have installed X server software.
Originally posted by andrew: **I installed OS X dp4 the other day -- it's looking quite a bit nicer than dp3. I think y'all will be pleasantly surprised when you actually get your hands on the shipping version (next year) or the public beta (this summer).
Or if someone at our local computer store happens to have one, wink wink
Seriously though, I saw DP3 as a major disappointment. It didn't run anything, it had an annoying Apple logo that didn't do anything. Not only that, but you can't even dial up an ISP or anyone with it yet. Do I even need to mention the unchangable fruity interface?
I think I will be sticking with OS 8/9 for quite some time... not worth even the time to install.... not even mentioning the $90+ or so it will cost when Linux has more applications than OS X.
Will I be able to run pc games on my mac with OS X? Since it´s like some pc version what ever. ?????????? I WANT MIDTOWN MADNESS 2 NOW!!!!! Cuz then I can cruse(sp what the fuc-) with the buss!
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Originally posted by Shadow: Will I be able to run pc games on my mac with OS X? Since it´s like some pc version what ever. ?????????? I WANT MIDTOWN MADNESS 2 NOW!!!!! Cuz then I can cruse(sp what the fuc-) with the buss!
MacOS X will run UNIX apps, but only those that are compiled for BSD UNIX. You'll still need an emulator to run Windows apps, as Windows isn't BSD UNIX or the MacOS.