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Originally posted by Skyfox: **Isn't there already a semi-done SC TC in the add-ons section?
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If there is, I'm amazed nobody has mentioned it...
It has never crossed my eyes. But then again, I'm not a frequent visitor to the downloads section.
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Space Pirate's plug search page makes this so much easier than it used to be....
Download link: EVN-StarCraft TC Pre-Beta - 1.05 mb
Desc from addons page, posted there on 5 Aug. 2002:
I originally started on this project in an effort to make an StarCraft total conversion for EV:Nova but as I stumbled on many problems that prevented me from completing this project It was left unfinished. This is the still unfinished pre beta version of the plug, and it contains many ships and weapons. I will upload it here so that other plug in makers can use my work or maybe continue it. Evil_Shadow
I haven't tried it.
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I'd play it.
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Originally posted by Dr. Trowel: **I haven't tried it.
For anyone whose Interested, I just downloaded that unfinished Starcraft TC. I had a quick look at it, and the only thing that might be of use graphics-whise would be the ships, There's about 6 shans, and most of them are (quite) good quality. The outfit and weapon graphics are not that good, and thats all there is in the way of graphics.
It's been ages since I played Starcraft. Must get me a copy.
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The ships are faithful to the originals- I wonder if the author modeled them himself, used SC sprite graphics, or got models off the Internet. The Scout even has weapon effects!
Now, if you can get rid of the hideous pink color, I think you'll be all good to go :D.
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I honestly never take interest in a plug project unless I personally create the graphics. For me, that's where all the fun is.
Originally posted by Captain Skyblade: For everyone with hard feelings toward TCs, I can't really blame you. There have been numerous projects out there that had a lot of promise but never reached completion. But generally I do not start a project unless I intend on finishing it. Only sidenote would be the Ares: Override project, but Ragashingo and I had good reasons to scrap that - new versions of OS X (mainly Panther) do not get along with Ares... or at least Ares developers. Unless Ambrosia releases an X version of Ares, A:O will never be completed.(/B)
Bah, Its not a sidenote until the project is declared dead :p. Once I get my new computer this old iMac will be run in OS 9 full time and I'll be able to finish AO. Its already really close but I just never felt like booting to OS 9 just to test out a change. And tinkering with Ares causes enough crashes that I couldn't stand trying to work with it without the protection of the Classic.
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However, there aren't that many space-capable vessels.
In addition to those listed, there are at least two freighter-looking vessels shown in the Terran end movie for the original Starcraft campaign (not brood war).
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As well, there is the strange-looking 'recovery ship' that you can see in the introduction cutscene (which made no sense to me whatsoever), and the thing that looks like a cargo container which makes an appearance in two other cutscenes.
Erhmm.....
I'd love to see what Captain Skyblade does with Starcraft graphics. Whatever the result, I'm sure we'll all be very impressed!
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Then there are the various space platforms. Marines with jetpacks, idea? That small transport used to board the science vessel in the Zerg missions And imagine if anything comes of that Zerg/Protoss hybrid...
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Why can't people just play Starcraft if they want to play Starcraft?
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Cause we want to play even more Starcraft! Honest, the game is good, the story is immersive, etc... but this is a matter of discussion for just games.
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Because starcraft in the Nova game engine would be even better.
(look under the EVN downloads in my siggy for the Gemini Missle plugins I made. feel free to expand on them if you want. I wouldn't mind seeing them in someone's starcraft plugin)
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Originally posted by Cunjo: **Because starcraft in the Nova game engine would be even better. **
Not necessarily better, but different. You can't compare Nova with Starcraft because the games are fundamentally different. Starcraft is a real-time-strategy game where the player can control dozens of individual units to defeat an enemy. Nova is a 3rd person space shooter where the player actively controls one ship and has limited control over any escorts he or she might have. If the Starcraft universe were brought into Nova, the game would be different. It would play differently, and we can't expect to compare the two. It's almost like trying to compare UT2003/UT2004 or Soldier of Fortune/II with Tomb Raider.
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Originally posted by Dr. Trowel: **Space Pirate's plug search page makes this so much easier than it used to be....
Download link: EVN-StarCraft TC Pre-Beta - 1.05 mb **
After looking over the resource files, I'm quite certain those are the original SC sprites converted to Nova format. They do not look like remakes.
Originally posted by Mantaray: **Why can't people just play Starcraft if they want to play Starcraft?
**Because quite simply, a plug-in would be a much more immersive look into the StarCraft universe... the game itself does quite a bit, but you never feel like you're actually in it. I for one, would love to give the SC scenario a good EVN treatment. The only problem being graphics, of course. If I found a killer designer and a dedicated developer who could bang out a lot of the code, I'd definitely be interested in making it happen- and getting it done, because my list of ideas are pretty much endless.
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Damn doing graphics for this would be awesome... zhouj don't kill me
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Originally posted by Mantaray: Why can't people just play Starcraft if they want to play Starcraft?
Your question is similar to:
Why don't people just play Polycon if they want to play Polycon?
Why don't people just play one of the many, many, many Star Wars games if they want to play Star Wars?
The answer is simple: because they want a different take on it. I could play Rogue Squadron if I want, but EV SW TCs (Thank GOD for acronyms! :D) are different, and allow a completely different game experience.
Just try and tell me that an EV TC for, say, X-Wing would be the same as an SW TC.
The same goes for SC.
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(quote)Originally posted by iamwallflower: **Damn doing graphics for this would be awesome... zhouj don't kill me:)
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