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Originally posted by Macavenger: ** /me ponders... I could probably kick RC and co. out to Ellsondor under the suicide clause... might do that if he doesn't move himself soon.
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Well, I hope something happens soon... I haven't been able to really participate in the webstory today because RC has not posted at all. :frown: Good grief, his own ship is about to go down...
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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade: Good grief, his own ship is about to go down...
Not that it would have mattered...
I must say, you're certainly full of surprises. So, like, what happens to the Aliens now? The ones that want to keep fighting do, and the rest join the Dreden?
Hmm, after the assassination and defection, I'd say this leaves Kylethekender in charge of the Empire.
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So RC is officially MIA, or KIA? Mac, you HC need to clean up the pirates before we Dreden come and give them something to cry about for you.
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That sounds good to me. Maybe a mass rebellion by some alien planets after they hear of the assasination of the emperor would swing a few systems over to the dreden.
Btw mac, that map really needs to be updated
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In order to engage in a second offensive wave against KK's pirate fleet, I have to wait for him to respond to me, do I not?
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Originally posted by ZenMastaT: **In order to engage in a second offensive wave against KK's pirate fleet, I have to wait for him to respond to me, do I not?
Yeah. Currently he has some internet problems, apparently he can pull up the Escape Velocity Board but not any of the topics. Asriel might control him, it all depends on what happens.
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Originally posted by Azdara Ace: **So RC is officially MIA, or KIA? Mac, you HC need to clean up the pirates before we Dreden come and give them something to cry about for you.;)
I would, but none of them will make a battle post... Actually, I think I have an xcuse to make a really small one that I'm going to take advantage of.
I think RC probably has to be declared KIA after an internal assassination like that, but I wouldn't have any problem with his rejoining the Aliens, with a new fleet...
add spl - um, full ammo was an oversight, but 19 Deborahs is correct. Asriel could only afford 37, not 40, after I raised your price 200,000. So, since I haven't heard anything else from him, I just docked one from each fleet.
And tell Asriel to command his own fleet, then worry about KK.
Umm, Mac a couple of things on my fleet. First off, as I'm at Darven I should have a full ammo load. Second, I have 20 Deborahs not 19.
Mac, I just went and did the calculations for KK's current fleet, (I forgot the losses he incurred when he took Pollux at first) My figures are slightly different then yours, do you do any behind the scenes moderating? Not to accuse Mac of anything, seeing as how if he did do any modding, it was in favor of the Pirates.
Originally posted by ZenMastaT: **Mac, I just went and did the calculations for KK's current fleet, (I forgot the losses he incurred when he took Pollux at first) My figures are slightly different then yours, do you do any behind the scenes moderating? Not to accuse Mac of anything, seeing as how if he did do any modding, it was in favor of the Pirates.
Sorta. I correctd some figures he posted apparently in error after taking Pollux, such as subtracting 12 from 87 and getting 85. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that it was either a typo or forgetting to carry, even though it happened multiple times. I think if you add up actual loss figures as they've been posted for his fleet from the beginning, you'll find my figures are correct.
Originally posted by Macavenger: **Sorta. I correctd some figures he posted apparently in error after taking Pollux, such as subtracting 12 from 87 and getting 85. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that it was either a typo or forgetting to carry, even though it happened multiple times.;) I think if you add up actual loss figures as they've been posted for his fleet from the beginning, you'll find my figures are correct.
Ah, I rechecked, you were most correct. Why don't I just listen to you then, eh? You ARE the President afterall. I noticed he actually incurred losses on himself between posts... mayhaps there was an action there no one saw?
Originally posted by Macavenger: **Not that it would have mattered...;)
I must say, you're certainly full of surprises. So, like, what happens to the Aliens now? The ones that want to keep fighting do, and the rest join the Dreden? **
Mwahaha. Just makes the story more entertaining and realistic. Anyhow, BariSax e-mailed me days ago about the possibility of defection...
About the aliens, they should keep fighting like an Empire should. Either that, or we could save the complete destruction for BFS IV.
I think a few worlds turning over to the Dreden would be a rather realistic idea.
This webstory is getting dread(en)fully one sided you know. Much as I imagine the thrill for you to just declare alien worlds as rebelling, that just wouldn't be "fair." I underestimated the amount of participation this webstory gets, and I can't even come close to having the amount of time you all seem to have especially when school starts and my parents tyrannical limitations are placed on my computer usage. Ehg, but I'll try to keep up.
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Originally posted by Kylethekender545: **This webstory is getting dread(en)fully one sided you know. Much as I imagine the thrill for you to just declare alien worlds as rebelling, that just wouldn't be "fair." I underestimated the amount of participation this webstory gets, and I can't even come close to having the amount of time you all seem to have especially when school starts and my parents tyrannical limitations are placed on my computer usage. Ehg, but I'll try to keep up.
Yeap, this is getting very dreadenfully one-sided. But that's mostly from the alien's own decisions. Think about it... RC risks two of his fleets, including his very own, in a single battle to destroy Jimbob. He doesn't notice the trap, and Azdara and I close in for the kill. Then, thanks to the hateful spirit and pointless war-waging of the Empire, BariSax defects (I probably would have done the same. Most Empires tend to have no reason for waging wars). Those were the alien player's decisions, not mine. And you could still possibly win if you play this right. You're now the Emperor. Get a fleet to your capital, or at least build a new one there and give it to RC or Saint+ as soon as possible.
Free time will get rare for me next week. I start back school, and my time will likely be limited to the late afternoon and evening hours. Not to mention the website updates that will keep me away from the forums... Believe me, we'll all be in the same shoes soon.
And hey, if you do lose, there's always a chance in BFS IV. I'm planning it all right now.
Oh I see now BariSax, since the Aliens were "losing", you decided to go ahead and switch sides right? I hope you'll all have fun taking over Alien planets with absolutely no resistance whatsoever because you've thoroughly screwed this very promising webstory into a tangled mess. What did I expect anyway? Mac, your site looked awesome and the maps and concept were great but what can I say?
Skyblade, your conquest is entirely through, contrary to what you stated in your recent bfs post, as you can expect no response from me as you pummel my fleet. Have a nice empty victory. Skyblade, though your tactics are sound and your posting is enjoyable, an entire fleet switching sides and the soon addition of UE Admiral makes it 5 dreden players vs. myself and Jager who appear not even to have the time to post every single hour. Rebel council is gone as well I suppose.
BariSax, you don't even understand the concept of a fair, well played out game. Ugh, traitors and team switchers.
Originally posted by Kylethekender545: **Oh I see now BariSax, since the Aliens were "losing", you decided to go ahead and switch sides right? I hope you'll all have fun taking over Alien planets with absolutely no resistance whatsoever because you've thoroughly screwed this very promising webstory into a tangled mess. What did I expect anyway? Mac, your site looked awesome and the maps and concept were great but what can I say?
Concerning BariSax, he e-mailed be about three days ago regarding defection. It was in the back of his mind even before the shooting started.
Ever read or seen "The Hunt for Red October?" A Russian sub defects to the United States. Do the Russians sit around and cry about it? No. You have to deal with your situation and go from there. You'll never achieve victory unless you accept that. It's all the player's choice... Don't you consider giving up until you've got nothing left. Add some flavor to the webstory, such as finding some way to shut down the jumpgate and devoting all your forces to the Dreden. Be creative.
Also, I'm considering making the final war between the aliens and Dreden BFS IV. Since it will take forever to conquer all the alien worlds, why not? You'll get new fleets and players, as well as a much better shot of winning. But for now, the Dreden are going on.
Also, don't blame Bari's defection on me. It was his choice. Blast him with revenge of you so prefer.
War is not fair, and never will be. This webstory is based on that very thing.
Skyblade, put yourself in my position. Jager is sitting next to the jumpgate having posted once. I am sitting in a system. Barisax, you, Azdara Ace, and Jimbob are on the front against a saint+ who isn't even here and whose fleet you have destroyed, and a rebel council who isn't here either and whose fleet you also destroyed!
That isn't even the issue, because you, AA, Jimbob, and BariSax all seem to have a huge amount of time on your hands. I can barely post two or three bfs messages a day, so any potentially brilliant strategies i'll post will be met immediately by your responses and I won't have the god damn time to respond to those. But have it your way, I'll actually respond so you guys can have the pleasure of annilhating my fleet. I have no control over any one else's fleet understand? It's just me! haha, and I don't even have the income to build anything until page 4.
I understant perfectly well your wish for me to be "creative." But anything that I could potentially do that brings any sort of victory to my side will look like "cheating" or "unrealistic."
Last point, Skyblade: yes a submarine rebelled but in this case it is an entire fleet. So what if BariSax wanted to switch sides, it would have been realistic if his ship alone did so. Instead, his whole fleet switched sides. Now you're talking about reality so I'll respond with realistic situations. You say that since one commander would switch sides, he could place the biased judgment on the captains of all his ships that they would agree to switch sides as well? So what if you call the alien empire "cruel." There is a degree of loyalty to one's own race and you would never betray your own kind for some aliens, as you, the Dreden, are in this case. So it is actually entirely unrealistic that an entire fleet of ships switches sides.
But have it your way, as I'll make my desperate fleet's posts as you all respond with 10 times the amount. Skyblade and Mac, please consider what I have said in this entire post.
Sigh, if possible, can I be a fighter pilot for the Aliens?
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Face it people, BFSIII has been screwed up since the beginning. First was the very first post which pretty much eliminated me since I had no options. Then there was Bari's defection. Defection was something that we decided against in one of the pertinent info's! The fact that we are seriously outnumbered and Mac's pricing is looking very strange now being overpriced for pirates and underpriced for HC. I vote that we have the prices decided on by all the leaders. Also, for BFSIV, why not make it start with the beginning of the rebellion? It is starting to get confusing with all the different technology that isn't in EV so we don't have any comparision.
Originally posted by Kylethekender545: **Skyblade, put yourself in my position. Jager is sitting next to the jumpgate having posted once. I am sitting in a system. Barisax, you, Azdara Ace, and Jimbob are on the front against a saint+ who isn't even here and whose fleet you have destroyed, and a rebel council who isn't here either and whose fleet you also destroyed! **
Your're blaming me for dragging Saint's fleet into the battle? Sorry buddy, but that was RC's responsibiliy, as is anything that happens to the Imperial fleet. As for destroying those fleet, that's my job.
RC's fleet destruction is his fault. He visited the forums three times and failed to do anything. In the process, he held up the entire Dreden's part of the webstory. Do you expect us to sit around? No siree...
Originally posted by Kylethekender545: ** That isn't even the issue, because you, AA, Jimbob, and BariSax all seem to have a huge amount of time on your hands. I can barely post two or three bfs messages a day, so any potentially brilliant strategies i'll post will be met immediately by your responses and I won't have the god damn time to respond to those. But have it your way, I'll actually respond so you guys can have the pleasure of annilhating my fleet. I have no control over any one else's fleet understand? It's just me! haha, and I don't even have the income to build anything until page 4. **
As with any webstory, the time you have at your hands often does decide the course of the story. Again, that's not our fault.
We haven't touched your fleet (yet :p), so don't complain about that...
And you still have Jager.
Originally posted by Kylethekender545: **I understant perfectly well your wish for me to be "creative." But anything that I could potentially do that brings any sort of victory to my side will look like "cheating" or "unrealistic." **
Just do your best, that's all I ask. It's the complaining that makes webstories boring.
Originally posted by Kylethekender545: ** Last point, Skyblade: yes a submarine rebelled but in this case it is an entire fleet. So what if BariSax wanted to switch sides, it would have been realistic if his ship alone did so. Instead, his whole fleet switched sides. Now you're talking about reality so I'll respond with realistic situations. You say that since one commander would switch sides, he could place the biased judgment on the captains of all his ships that they would agree to switch sides as well? So what if you call the alien empire "cruel." There is a degree of loyalty to one's own race and you would never betray your own kind for some aliens, as you, the Dreden, are in this case. So it is actually entirely unrealistic that an entire fleet of ships switches sides.
I understand your point about the defection. Some of BariSax's fleet should have been uptight towards defection, and remained loyal to the Emperor... But they likely would have been blasted by the majority of those who wished to leave the harsh life of a military government.
Also, the aliens had the advantage in the beginning... Five fleets to our three. We blasted two of them due to poor judgement on the Empire's side, and the other defected. You still have two untouched fleets left, so use them wisely.
Good luck. You're doing well, just please understand that someone is always going to lose, even if you don't like it...