Battle for Sol - Episode II: Discussion

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Originally posted by Kaptain Karl:
**Urgent Message to:
........Grunadulater, fleet #302
........Sattomax, fleet 463
........spl_cadet, fleet 589

Our encrytion computer is a pile of daxx! It's broken again. But this is potentially so important, we are sending it on this open channel....

On "inventorying" the shipyard here on New Istanbul, our engineers caught some HC engineers attempting to delete some warship plans you may find very interesting. (We tried to learn what version these drafts were -- and how far along the HC's production and distribution is -- from the HC engineers. Unfortunately, two of the three HC egineers "committed suicide" right in the middle of questioning. At that point however the remaining engineer could not talk fast enough.)

My engineers tell me this thing is BIG and POWERFUL. Maybe we can use some of its weapons ourselves...?

The attached files are the ship plans and our notes from the HC engineer's assistance. (We would be transporting the engineer to one of you for additional questioning. Sadly, he expired from some peculiar form of organ failure.)

I hope these plans prove useful.

- KK out.

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If this means that you can now access HC tech, I believe this is an infracture of the rules. You are creating ships with no boundries, giving yourself an advantage. if the other players could do this all pirate tech would be in the hands of the HC. And all HC tech would be in the hands of the aliens. If not, then I don't know what this is for.

Yeah, I forgot to post fuel. The Starscreamer has one crew and 5 jumps. The Siege Carrier has 8 jumps and 2000 crew.

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Apparently, my X-Rapiers are kicking HC warship @$$ right about now.

Off topic- Finally, I was allowed to register 😄

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About time they finished their administrative duties.

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Apparently, my X-Rapiers are kicking HC warship @$$ right about now.

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Originally posted by General Rak:
**Off topic- Finally, I was allowed to register:D

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That is wonderful news, Rak. You'll be glad you registered, as it can be annoying for you to make a post with mistakes under episode II as an unregistered user, only to find out you can't edit them.

Glad to see yet another member. "Welcome" to the boards, Rak. 😉

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Hey, I agree with Skyblade on the pirates slowing down some. I'm trying to update the map and get it current, and you guys aren't making it any easier. I should have it up sometime tomorrow, unless there's a lot more activity. 😉 Skyblade, if you haven't sent me the fleet icon set yet, could you soon? I can't tell whether you have this afternoon because I can't check my e-mail from here.

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Hangon,Rak registered.
Does that mean Ambrosia has finished switching servers?
IE,can I register now?

First, welcome, Rak. Good to have the bureaucratic stuff done, huh?

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Originally posted by General Rak:
If this means that you can now access HC tech, I believe this is an infracture of the rules. You are creating ships with no boundries, giving yourself an advantage....

I must protest Rak's protest! The HC (and the Aliens) have SUCH a huge advantage in ship power over us Pirates. The only thing we have going for us is our quick strike capability ... and of course, deceitful tactics like thievery, cold-blooded murder, torture, etc.. (You know ... Pirate stuff!)

Yemuro is Tech Level 5, with a major shipyard. It only stands to reason, we may discover some useful plans to help us combat the HC's super ships. Besides, have you forgotten that you HC guys are already kicking our posteriors -- out of our own HQ, too!!!

(End of rant...)

On the "Pirates moving too fast" issue, Sattomax may have just captured 3 systems ... but two of them were uninhabited. And besides, rapid guerilla tactics are a Pirate hallmark :D.

- KK

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(This message has been edited by Kaptain Karl (edited 08-06-2001).)

I think we'll have to have Captain Skyblade decide about manufacturing HC ships, but that would add some complications. You've got some very good ships, like the X-Rapier and Superkestrel. I'd suggest focusing your new shipbuilding on some more good ships.

Miscellaneous: For the purposes of my map, I'd like all non-alien players except Tycho Maudd to post he current position of their fleet here. You guys are dancing so much I'm starting to lose track mentally of everything but general areas, and I don't want to have to scan the topic to figure stuff out.
Also, just out of curiosity, spl_cadet, did you find this through the link in my sig? I know I've seen you on the Nova board before, but not here, I don't think.

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Originally posted by Macavenger:
I think we'll have to have Captain Skyblade decide about manufacturing HC ships, but that would add some complications. You've got some very good ships, like the X-Rapier and Superkestrel. I'd suggest focusing your new shipbuilding on some more good ships.

I don't think any self-respecting pirate would want to BUILD HC ships. (As we pirates say -- and pardon my language -- Yuck!!!)

Those plans we acquired could, however, help us design weapons to exploit the HC design. And even pirates would (grudgingly) admit, once in a while the HC comes up with a feature or two we may wish to incorporate into a new design of (mostly) our own.

(BTW, Mac, I've seen spl_cadet on the EV boards before.)

- KK

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Current location, KK?

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Originally posted by Macavenger:
Current location, KK?

Oops! I misread your post, Mac.

We are still looking for ship and weapon design files on New Istanbul in the Yemuro system.

(Aside) ... "What's that, Smith? You found weapons plans for a 'fork-what'??? I don't know. We'll just send them to Grunadulater and Sattomax with the rest of this gibberish..." ;).. :eek:.. :p.. 😉

- KK

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(This message has been edited by Kaptain Karl (edited 08-06-2001).)

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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**I think we'll have to have Captain Skyblade decide about manufacturing HC ships, but that would add some complications. You've got some very good ships, like the X-Rapier and Superkestrel. I'd suggest focusing your new shipbuilding on some more good ships.

Miscellaneous: For the purposes of my map, I'd like all non-alien players except Tycho Maudd to post he current position of their fleet here. You guys are dancing so much I'm starting to lose track mentally of everything but general areas, and I don't want to have to scan the topic to figure stuff out.
Also, just out of curiosity, spl_cadet, did you find this through the link in my sig? I know I've seen you on the Nova board before, but not here, I don't think.
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I'm in the Darven system at the moment. And although I mainly stick to Just Chat, B&B;, and the Nova board I do check these other ones once in a while.

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Originally posted by Kaptain Karl:
**Oops! I misread your post, Mac.

We are still looking for ship and weapon design files on New Istanbul in the Yemuro system.

(Aside) ... "What's that, Smith? You found weapons plans for a 'fork-what'??? I don't know. We'll just send them to Grunadulater and Sattomax with the rest of this gibberish..." ;).. :eek:.. ;)..:p.. 😉

- KK
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Thanks for the location, and as for the forklift... no. 😉

Just out of couriosity Mac, is it your job to update the map now, or is it still Captain Skyblade doing that?

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Ai ämm noh näitiwe Inglisch spieker, soh dohn't mäik fann off mai spellink.

Location?

NGC-9758. The one two jumps below Agena. It seems Skyblade named two systems exactly a like.

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UE Crusader, you take Saden with only the loss of a handfull of ships? C'mon!!!
(I'm not saying you did not capture the system, but we pirates have been told by the Mods that HC ships are not really that much better than ours. Then you have an easy time taking Saden, the "crown jewel" of the pirate empire?)

(Well, I'm only four jumps from Sol. So maybe my next battle will be taking Sol. But I'll be as fair as your Saden victory. I'll lose 8 Corvettes and, oh, 11 or 12 Xs.... ;))

Please make your losses a little more fair. Thanks.

- KK

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Originally posted by Kaptain Karl:
**UE Crusader, you take Saden with only the loss of a handfull of ships? C'mon!!!
(I'm not saying you did not capture the system, but we pirates have been told by the Mods that HC ships are not really that much better than ours. Then you have an easy time taking Saden, the "crown jewel" of the pirate empire?)

(Well, I'm only four jumps from Sol. So maybe my next battle will be taking Sol. But I'll be as fair as your Saden victory. I'll lose 8 Corvettes and, oh, 11 or 12 Xs.... ;))

Please make your losses a little more fair. Thanks.

- KK

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I agree. Capitals should inflict at least 250M in losses.

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Originally posted by General Rak:
**I agree. Capitals should inflict at least 250M in losses.
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I don't think it should be as clear cut as that, but in principle i agree. UE Crusader, please add some difficulty to that post, you'll take heavier losses than that.

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Macavenger, first I never attacked Rigel. I attacked Matar. And from my years of playing EV I know that it generally has very little defense so the statistics from my battle would add up correctly. Most of the times that I have jumped into Matar it had at most a fighter or 2 to defend it. On a few occasions it had a cruiser. Thus my reasoning of its defense capabilities.

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