Nova keeps crashing

My Nova starts up, loads and shows the first screen.
However between 5 and 30 seconds later either while I am on the main screen or once I have hit enter ship the whole screen goes black and I have to restart my computer.
I just tried a debuglog but I cant get anything out of it not sure if you can.
I am using mac os 9
If not thanks anyway.

EV Nova debug log

Output on 7/25/2006 at 7:11 PM

game engine was compiled Apr 19 2004
game engine version is 1.0.8 PPC

opening data files & loading prefs
initializing monitor
opening monitor tool
main display at startup was 1024x768 / 32 bits / 75 Hz
attempting to set main display to 1024x768 / 16 bits / 75 Hz
setting main display to 1024x768 / 16 bits / 75 Hz
system software version is 0910
initializing QuickTime
building trig table
opening platform tool
opening file tool
opening draw tool
opening interface tool
opening registration tool
initializing arrays
opening data files
opening files in Nova Files folder:
Nova Data 1
Nova Data 2
Nova Data 3
Nova Data 4
Nova Data 5
Nova Data 6
Nova Graphics 1
Nova Graphics 2
Nova Graphics 3
Nova Music - failed or has no resource fork
Nova Ships 1
Nova Ships 2
Nova Ships 3
Nova Ships 4
Nova Ships 5
Nova Ships 6
Nova Ships 7
Nova Ships 8
Nova Sounds
Nova Titles 1
Nova Titles 2
Nova Titles 3
Nova Titles 4
Race 1.mov
Race 2.mov
Race 3.mov
Race 4.mov
opening files in Nova Plug-Ins folder:
Activates Hypergates
Balance Plugin 2.0
EVN Boards Variants.npif
Extras copy
HypergatePassv1.0.npif
Multi Cursor
New Status Display 1.0
Planets Upgrade v.1
Super Defense Fleets.npif
Veterans' Ship Selector
loading sounds
creating window
main window rect: (-2384, 551, -496, 569)
initializing sprite world
creating scratch frames
creating offscreen buffers
starting music
initializing strings
initializing status bar
initializing objects
initializing buttons
loading object data
warning: PD Fusion Pulse Turret (452) lacks description
warning: PD Ionic Particle Cannon (453) lacks description
warning: Reverse Thrusters (536) lacks description
warning: Reverse Thrusters (537) lacks description
warning: Reverse Thrusters (538) lacks description
warning: weapon 235 probably shouldn't draw ammo from weapon 249
warning: outfit item 444 grants ammo to weapon 235, which doesn't use its own ammo
warning: outfit item 448 grants ammo to weapon 235, which doesn't use its own ammo
warning: Abomination (152) has 3 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Abomination (241) has 3 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Abomination (244) has 3 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Abomination (245) has 4 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Striker (262) has a trade-in value of 1163000 but costs only 1000000
warning: Striker (271) has a trade-in value of 1243000 but costs only 1050000
warning: Heavy Shuttle (363) has a trade-in value of 16248 but costs only 14995
warning: Starbridge (640) has 8 gun-type weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Valkyrie (641) has 6 turreted weapons but its maximum is 1
warning: IDA Frigate (642) has 10 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Fed Destroyer (643) has 7 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Fed Carrier (644) has 8 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Manticore (645) has 6 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Pirate Carrier (646) has 8 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Pirate Starbridge (647) has 4 turreted weapons but its maximum is 1
warning: Pirate Valkyrie (648) has 14 gun-type weapons but its maximum is 6
warning: Pirate Valkyrie (648) has 8 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Abomination (649) has 9 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Aurora Carrier (650) has 12 turreted weapons but its maximum is 6
warning: Aurora Cruiser (651) has 16 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Arachnid (652) has 3 gun-type weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Dragon (653) has 3 turreted weapons but its maximum is 1
warning: Dragon (653) has a trade-in value of 1729500 but costs only 1100000
warning: Dragon (653) lacks purchase description
warning: Dragon (653) lacks hiring description
warning: Scarab (654) has 4 turreted weapons but its maximum is 3
warning: Striker (655) has 2 turreted weapons but its maximum is 1
warning: Raven (656) has 6 turreted weapons but its maximum is 5
warning: Raven (656) lacks purchase description
warning: weapon ID 199 on ship type 656 lacks corresponding oütf resource
warning: Mod Starbridge (657) lacks purchase description
warning: RAGE Gunboat (658) has 5 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Rebel Starbridge (659) has 5 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Rebel Starbridge (659) has a trade-in value of 1258250 but costs only 650000
warning: Rebel Starbridge (659) lacks purchase description
warning: Rebel Starbridge (659) lacks hiring description
warning: Rebel Valkyrie (660) has 10 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Rebel Valkyrie (660) has a trade-in value of 2211750 but costs only 375000
warning: Rebel Valkyrie (660) lacks purchase description
warning: Rebel Valkyrie (660) lacks hiring description
warning: Rebel Dragon (661) has 9 turreted weapons but its maximum is 1
warning: Rebel Dragon (661) has a trade-in value of 5268250 but costs only 3000000
warning: Rebel Dragon (661) lacks purchase description
warning: Rebel Dragon (661) lacks hiring description
warning: Rebel Destroyer (662) has 13 gun-type weapons but its maximum is 6
warning: Rebel Destroyer (662) has 8 turreted weapons but its maximum is 3
warning: Fed Patrol Boat (663) has 8 gun-type weapons but its maximum is 5
warning: Fed Patrol Boat (663) has 6 turreted weapons but its maximum is 3
warning: Aurora Thunderforge (664) has 12 turreted weapons but its maximum is 6
warning: Rebel IDA Frigate (665) has 10 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Mod Starbridge (799) has 5 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: IDA Frigate (802) has a trade-in value of 3499500 but costs only 2750000
warning: system 130 makes reference to nonexistent përs resource 644
warning: Misfire (211) has a trade center but trades no goods
warning: Nil'a Mjolnir (220) has a trade center but trades no goods
warning: Nil'ar Kemorya (232) has a trade center but trades no goods
warning: Dani - Endurance (323) has a trade center but trades no goods
warning: Pholar (340) has a trade center but trades no goods
warning: Dominance (353) has a trade center but trades no goods
warning: Pholar (428) has a trade center but trades no goods
loading mission data
propagating mission bit effects
showing splash screen
loading sprites
checking memory
free memory before loading ship sprites: 85422832 bytes
memory needed for ship sprites: 38318264 bytes
loading ship sprites

Try removing all those plugs and seeing if the game loads without them. If that works, add them in one or two at a time and see which one crashes the game. I suspect that the problem is that one of the plugs has an improperly-made shän, or another bad graphic.

(EDIT)After looking at that plug-in list again, what is "multi-cursor" supposed to do? It sounds slightly more suspicious than the rest of the plug-ins, so you may want to try just removing it first.

Edwards

This post has been edited by Edwards : 25 July 2006 - 01:41 PM

Took all plugs out, still crashed.

Multi-cursor just makes the crosshair in-game multicolored instead of red.

I am going to try downloading the latest version now so I will see if that helps.

EDIT: Is the latest version of Nova only for Mac os X?

This post has been edited by Sp3cies : 25 July 2006 - 04:48 PM

@sp3cies, on Jul 25 2006, 01:41 PM, said in Nova keeps crashing:

(snip)
EV Nova debug log
Nova Music - failed or has no resource fork
opening files in Nova Plug-Ins folder:
Activates Hypergates
Balance Plugin 2.0
EVN Boards Variants.npif
Extras copy
HypergatePassv1.0.npif
Multi Cursor
New Status Display 1.0
Planets Upgrade v.1
Super Defense Fleets.npif
Veterans' Ship Selector
warning: PD Fusion Pulse Turret (452) lacks description
warning: PD Ionic Particle Cannon (453) lacks description
warning: Reverse Thrusters (536) lacks description
warning: Reverse Thrusters (537) lacks description
warning: Reverse Thrusters (538) lacks description
warning: weapon 235 probably shouldn't draw ammo from weapon 249
warning: outfit item 444 grants ammo to weapon 235, which doesn't use its own ammo
warning: outfit item 448 grants ammo to weapon 235, which doesn't use its own ammo
warning: Abomination (152) has 3 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Abomination (241) has 3 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Abomination (244) has 3 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Abomination (245) has 4 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Striker (262) has a trade-in value of 1163000 but costs only 1000000
warning: Striker (271) has a trade-in value of 1243000 but costs only 1050000
warning: Heavy Shuttle (363) has a trade-in value of 16248 but costs only 14995
warning: Starbridge (640) has 8 gun-type weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Valkyrie (641) has 6 turreted weapons but its maximum is 1
warning: IDA Frigate (642) has 10 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Fed Destroyer (643) has 7 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Fed Carrier (644) has 8 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Manticore (645) has 6 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Pirate Carrier (646) has 8 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Pirate Starbridge (647) has 4 turreted weapons but its maximum is 1
warning: Pirate Valkyrie (648) has 14 gun-type weapons but its maximum is 6
warning: Pirate Valkyrie (648) has 8 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Abomination (649) has 9 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Aurora Carrier (650) has 12 turreted weapons but its maximum is 6
warning: Aurora Cruiser (651) has 16 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Arachnid (652) has 3 gun-type weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Dragon (653) has 3 turreted weapons but its maximum is 1
warning: Dragon (653) has a trade-in value of 1729500 but costs only 1100000
warning: Dragon (653) lacks purchase description
warning: Dragon (653) lacks hiring description
warning: Scarab (654) has 4 turreted weapons but its maximum is 3
warning: Striker (655) has 2 turreted weapons but its maximum is 1
warning: Raven (656) has 6 turreted weapons but its maximum is 5
warning: Raven (656) lacks purchase description
warning: weapon ID 199 on ship type 656 lacks corresponding oütf resource
warning: Mod Starbridge (657) lacks purchase description
warning: RAGE Gunboat (658) has 5 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Rebel Starbridge (659) has 5 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Rebel Starbridge (659) has a trade-in value of 1258250 but costs only 650000
warning: Rebel Starbridge (659) lacks purchase description
warning: Rebel Starbridge (659) lacks hiring description
warning: Rebel Valkyrie (660) has 10 turreted weapons but its maximum is 2
warning: Rebel Valkyrie (660) has a trade-in value of 2211750 but costs only 375000
warning: Rebel Valkyrie (660) lacks purchase description
warning: Rebel Valkyrie (660) lacks hiring description
warning: Rebel Dragon (661) has 9 turreted weapons but its maximum is 1
warning: Rebel Dragon (661) has a trade-in value of 5268250 but costs only 3000000
warning: Rebel Dragon (661) lacks purchase description
warning: Rebel Dragon (661) lacks hiring description
warning: Rebel Destroyer (662) has 13 gun-type weapons but its maximum is 6
warning: Rebel Destroyer (662) has 8 turreted weapons but its maximum is 3
warning: Fed Patrol Boat (663) has 8 gun-type weapons but its maximum is 5
warning: Fed Patrol Boat (663) has 6 turreted weapons but its maximum is 3
warning: Aurora Thunderforge (664) has 12 turreted weapons but its maximum is 6
warning: Rebel IDA Frigate (665) has 10 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: Mod Starbridge (799) has 5 turreted weapons but its maximum is 4
warning: IDA Frigate (802) has a trade-in value of 3499500 but costs only 2750000
warning: system 130 makes reference to nonexistent përs resource 644
warning: Misfire (211) has a trade center but trades no goods
warning: Nil'a Mjolnir (220) has a trade center but trades no goods
warning: Nil'ar Kemorya (232) has a trade center but trades no goods
warning: Dani - Endurance (323) has a trade center but trades no goods
warning: Pholar (340) has a trade center but trades no goods
warning: Dominance (353) has a trade center but trades no goods
warning: Pholar (428) has a trade center but trades no goods
(/snip)

I'd say, try fixing all those errors. Redownload EVN for the music file, remove all the plugs, and repost the debuglog. I think that those errors are probably due to the

Planets Upgrade v.1
Super Defense Fleets.npif
Veterans' Ship Selector
Balance Plugin 2.0
Extras copy

conflicting with each other - it certainly looks like a bunch of areas are getting changed repeatedly and improperly.

(edit) Again, post the debuglog after removing all plugs, so we can see what is really going on. In stock Nova, none of those errors should be occuring.(/edit)

(edit2) Um, what is that Extra's copy? It might be part of the conflicting plugs, I'll add it to the above list.(/edit2)

(edit3) Wow, I love that edit button... anyway, just got to say, wow to all those mods. I mean, putting 5 turrets on a Mod Starbridge? Geez. I normally stock my ships up with guns (primaries) instead of missiles and the lot, but still, on a ship that size, isn't 5 a bit much?(/edit3)

This post has been edited by Mitschu Games : 25 July 2006 - 05:26 PM

Ok here is the debuglog for the nova with out plug-ins they are newer nova files than the last one these are for version 1.0.9. It still crashed after this.
I then removed all of these data files and just put in absolute minimum and it now runs fine. There is just nothing to do in the universe now.

EV Nova debug log

Output on 7/25/2006 at 11:58 PM

game engine was compiled Oct 16 2005
game engine version is 1.0.9 PPC

opening data files & loading prefs
initializing monitor
opening monitor tool
main display at startup was 1024x768 / 32 bits / 75 Hz
attempting to set main display to 1024x768 / 16 bits / 75 Hz
setting main display to 1024x768 / 16 bits / 75 Hz
system software version is 0910
initializing QuickTime
building trig table
opening platform tool
opening file tool
opening draw tool
opening interface tool
opening registration tool
initializing arrays
opening data files
opening files in Nova Files folder:
Nova Data 1
Nova Data 2
Nova Data 3
Nova Data 4
Nova Data 5
Nova Data 6
Nova Graphics 1
Nova Graphics 2
Nova Graphics 3
Nova Music
Nova Ships 1
Nova Ships 2
Nova Ships 3
Nova Ships 4
Nova Ships 5
Nova Ships 6
Nova Ships 7
Nova Ships 8
Nova Sounds
Nova Titles 1
Nova Titles 2
Nova Titles 3
Nova Titles 4
Race 1.mov
Race 2.mov
Race 3.mov
Race 4.mov
loading sounds
creating window
main window rect: (-22169, 675, -26028, 719)
initializing sprite world
creating scratch frames
creating offscreen buffers
starting music
initializing strings
initializing status bar
initializing objects
initializing buttons
loading object data
warning: disaster 128 (An enormous food surplus) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 129 (A glut on the market) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 130 (A minor drought) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 131 (A seasonal lull) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 132 (An excess of trade) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 133 (A recent increase in trade) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 134 (A spate of break-downs) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 135 (A good harvest of bio-agents) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 136 (An excellent harvest) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 137 (An enormous surplus) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 138 (Damage due to student pranks) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 139 (An excellent harvest) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 140 (A large number of prisoner deaths) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 141 (A series of good raids) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 142 (Damage due to student pranks) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 144 (The discovery of a new drug) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 145 (A shortage in supply) has an unusually small price delta
warning: disaster 146 (Another good harvest) has an unusually small price delta
loading mission data
propagating mission bit effects
showing splash screen
loading sprites
checking memory
free memory before loading ship sprites: 74806720 bytes
memory needed for ship sprites: 42323396 bytes
loading ship sprites
configuring sprites
initializing player
initializing main screen
opening last pilot file
propagating mission bit effects
---
preparing main screen
setting up world
setting up main screen graphics
doing main screen

sigh sorry to tell you but you have downloaded an outdated version of Nova! I believe, for the Mac that is, that the latest version of Nova is 1.0.10.

This post has been edited by JacaByte : 25 July 2006 - 05:40 PM

All versions of Nova run on both OS 9 and X. Where did you manage to find 1.0.9?? Regardless, upgrading to 1.0.10 probably won't fix the problem but it's a good idea anyway.
Your second log shows it got further before crashing - if it got that far it may be the firewall issue. Was the crash identical in both cases?

There was a slight difference between the two versions, the Nova 1.0.9 didnt fade to black when it froze.
Well when I get home I will download 1.0.10. I didn't do that yeterday because in the descripion on the plug-ins page it only mentions Mac os X.

Try disabling the firewall if you have one. Every time you start up Nova it checks for updates and a firewall might interfere with that.

Or just try hitting "enter" when it goes black. Worked for me when I had the glitch, can't remember how it came to disappear.

Wipe the prefs?

First of all i suggest not to have so many plugins at one time{beacuase it messes around with numbers that sometimes shouldn't be messed with} After removing the plugins if it still crashes save any pilot files that arn't so messed up up alot by plugins. reinstall nova and register again{hopfully you still have the code to register} then put your pilot files back and it should be fixed. it worked on my windows so it should work for mac.

hope it fixes your problem if the other ideas did not work.

I'v had this problem a lot. you have entered some number wrong. it wants a number in a certan range (for exampel 0-255), and you entered one too high (1255), wich crashes the game. also, your log indicates that stuff lacks descriptions. use the desc resources.

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