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Yeah. One way, you die. The other way, you die. However, one way Cadet gets 14 free ships. The other way, he might lose a few.
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I'm dreadfully sorry for my mistake, although I'm glad you noticed it, I lost nearly half of my ships in that battle, and would have lost more had you not noticed the mistake.
Also, I request that any players that are currently not able to conduct research, such as the Mercenaries, be able to buy a research facility for an insanely high price, such as 500 mil. It would give me something to save for, and would make sure that we wouldn't have a jump on the Indies in the beginning, yet we could still stay even with everyone else later in the game.
This idea may need revising, but I think it is worth looking into, seeing as how if all I can buy is the normal ships, later on in the game everyone is going to have uber ship designs (I'm thinking in the long range!) while I'm stuck with a crappy fleet. Please think about it, maybe you could put limits on how fast research happens at the facilities, such as whatever time I say it takes to research something, it actually takes 4 more days or something. Please look into this!
Sincerely, Cheezy_Cracker
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Originally posted by Cheezy_Cracker: **I'm dreadfully sorry for my mistake, although I'm glad you noticed it, I lost nearly half of my ships in that battle, and would have lost more had you not noticed the mistake.
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The merc's lack of technology can be made up for by grateful governments giving them technology and or ships as payment. Mercenaries may also contract players(governments) to research things for them. The gov loses a research slot for themselves, but they get cash in return so it may balance out.
I like your idea for research ability for mercs... i will look into that. Input is appreciated.
I'm so confused about what's going on in the battle of Tiber, but I'm there now, I'm snipping all my posts about what I did when I first got there, because they were wrong. Please use bold to header the battle sites!!
Thanks a Ton! Cheezy_Cracker
Originally posted by Cheezy_Cracker in response to Paranoid's research: ** Since you are researching cheaper alloys, that would increase your armor, not your shields. So, you either need to edit your post and make it some kind of shield technology, or else have a loss in shield strength. (Sorry mods, I caught it!) **
Forget your glasses Cheezy? He says there that he is researching cheaper alloys. Cheaper generally means weaker. He did not say he was getting more shields. What he DID say is that he was getting less armor in exchange for more speed and maneuverability. Please leave the moderation to Jimbob and myself. If you must say something, say here in the OOC thread so we dont have to waste a post about it in the main thread. Thank you.
And uh... now that i am awake and rested(if only a little), i will start puting thought into the Merc research facility.
Originally posted by Cheezy_Cracker: **I'm so confused about what's going on in the battle of Tiber, but I'm there now, I'm snipping all my posts about what I did when I first got there, because they were wrong. Please use bold to header the battle sites!!
The current status of Tiber:
Tiber Third Confed Fleet
14 Frigates, all damaged to some degree. They are sandwiched between the System Defense at the planet, and the Rebel Third fleet that is blocking their path to hyperspace range.
Tiber System Defenses: 4 Cruisers
Third Rebel Fleet: 7 Cruisers 35 Destroyers, 5 more heavy damage in rear of line (for total of 40) 23 Mantas
Hehe, I realized that after I posted it, I was going to wait till you noticed it to snip it though, my bad. I hereby solemnly swear to always use my abilities to not think like a moderator!
Also, I finally got the battle of Tiber straight in my head. I'm sorry for all the snipping I have done, but there was no way around it. I will now try my hardest to not get confused...
Originally posted by Cheezy_Cracker: **Credit Transfer Recieved: Total Treasurey now 29 mil.
Tiber
<battle snip>
Fleet Status: CCC Enterprises: 3 Kestrels, heavily damaged 11 Corvettes 3 Rapiers (I have 5, but the other two are still on "Special Assignment") 0 Lightnings (I lost 20) 0 Defenders (I lost 6)
Confederation Fleet: 13 Frigates, all heavily damaged
Rebel Fleet: 5 Cruisers (lost 7) 20 Destroyers, 5 heavily damaged (lost 15) 0 mantas (lost 23)
Message To Commanding Confederation Officer From Commodore Cheezy_Cracker Subject Mission Success Most Honorable Commander, If I may request though, it may be less of a hole in your wallet if you disregard the 2 kestrels, and allow me use of the new Orion-Class Frigate when it is finished. Please, do whatever you deem nescessary though.
Sincerly, Commodore Cheezy_Cracker CCC Enterprises
Cheezy, You killed too many vessels in that post... It will stand, but i am going to moderate the Rebel losses down to a more acceptable level. It was a good post, but it was a bit of a one-post battle. Try not to do anything in one-post in the future.
Also, you do not offically know about the War Frigate as it is not complete nor has it been used. You should probobly edit that to say Frigates rather than refere to the Orion War Frigate.
Moderation:
Confederate Losses raised to 5 Frigates, leaving them with 9 that made it to Antares.
Rebel Defense Fleet of Tiber stays at 4 Cruisers. They were too far away to have taken damage(from cheezy) or delt damage(to Cheezy) in the time Cheezy was there.
Rebel Third Fleet is now: 5 Cruisers (His post combined the Third fleet with the defense fleet, so i am actually giving you 4 cruisers back) 25 Destroyers, 5 heavily damaged (+5 from Cheezy's post) 0 mantas -- Cheezy made the mistake of thinking the defense fleet and third fleet were one-in the same and posted the Rebel's remaining ships as such. I have split them up here and given the Rebels back some of their Cruisers and a few Destroyers.
Originally posted by Cheezy_Cracker: ** Lethe/Aries** The citizens of both planets were in an uproar. They both knew that their rivals had attacked them, although neither knew that they had "attacked" their rivals. The Lethians decided then and there that the peace talks would end, it was war again, and the New Cydonians came to the same conclusions, thinking this was the answer to their peace proposals. Chaos began to reign.
Commodore Cheezy_Cracker's Waiting Room, Pride of Astert , orbiting Antares
"Lieutenant, come to my waiting room!" ordered Cheezy_Cracker. "You called for me, sir!" came the response several moments later. "Yes, instruct the pilot of Astert's Sister to modify his IFF to read as a trader, then jump into both the Lethe and Aries systems. Once there, have him activate his homing device, and pick up the two downed pilots from the Rapiers." commanded Cheezy_Cracker "Sir, yes, Sir!" cried the Lieutenant.
OOC: Remember, nothing inside the Waiting room can be known about, it is simply to avoid confusion.
You may not decide how other players react to what you've done. Whereas what you did do is fine as far as i care, you may not decide for them what the politics will hold.
Again, please edit the post to exclude mention of the Orion War Frigate. Your character does not know of it's existance. I would suggest asking for regular frigates instead.
Reguarding your OOC comment, No one may use what is called "OOC knowledge" OOC Knowledge is when you do something in response to something your character doesnt know about. Thus, you're OOC comment is not nessisary.
I disagree with your opinion that it was a one post battle. It had to be one post to insure that I could accomplish the missions. If you cared to take notice, I lost almost 77.3% of my fleet in that battle, the rebels didn't loose that large of a percentage.
I'll accept your moderation, but I do formally disagree with some parts of it. (No fued though!)
Thanks!
Originally posted by U.E. Admiral: **
Also, I would like to point out that you never arranged a pick up for your pilot. Therefore, it is quite conceivable that a New Cydonian in my system and a Lethe pilot in their system picked the pilots up. So I'm assuming either your pilot died, or was picked up in my system and brought to my planet. And I think the latter is more realistic since so almost all the ships around my planet are cydonian and because most of the ships entering an exiting are Cydonian. Either way, I would like to capture your pilot in my story because I think that is more realistic in the sense of the story, and since you haven't ultimately decided his fate.
Also, I have no defenders so that is weird that you would have killed one. And I sometimes wonder how a Rapier destroys a Corvette... seems like your stretching alot of things. I would like to ask U.E. Admiral for permission to capture your pilot. Is that reasonable?
{edit}:Hehe, missed that last part, but still your ordered them to be picked up in retrospect??? That seeams a little odd. Oh, well, I'll alter what you think is going to happen anyway. (criptic grin)
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(This message has been edited by Swithich (edited 08-19-2004).)
Point 1:
I'm thoroughly lost as usual. Would it be possible to bring ships out of a defensive fleet and into an offensive fleet? I assume yes because it makes sense.
Point 2:
C_c's comment about my technology upgrade misses the mark by a little bit. I wasn't changing the shields at all and I was lowering the quality of the armor to reduce price and increase acceleration and maneuverability. Since the Lightning is fairly small it wouldn't be heavily affected, but the Rapier would have decently be improved fairly heavily for the loss of about 19 armor. Besides that I was working on engine tune-ups and upgrades that would further improve speed for both classes of vessel. The eventual cost would be approximately equivalent to the original model which is why the improvements are going to take so long.
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Originally posted by Paranoid: **Point 1:
Point 1: I would like to avoid taking ships from the defense fleet. It would be alright if people didnt dig into their initial ships, but people will often do that without anyone noticing. So the answer to this is a No. If people could do that then things could get rather crazy with the Civil War.
Point 2: I already addressed this... however, an exact ammount of armor loss is helpful to my tech library. Do you have an exact speed ammount too?
Err, I missed that post. Sorry.
I'm going to upgrade so that the engine enhancements are equal to the upgrades you can buy, plus a slight benefit for the armor change. This is subject to change at my random whims until production is begun. I subtracted more armor then the Rapier had in my previous post but that was only a slight mistake (except to my pilots flying without ships). Top Speed:+150 Acceleration:+160 (180 Rapier) Maneuverability:+32 degrees (36 for Rapier) Armor: -4 (-14 Rapier) Cost will remain consistent with EVula's site.
I'm going to split this research into to different concepts in the near future. It has already been going on for 3 days and will probably continue in some form for at least three or four more. More modifications will be added as the time progresses.
(This message has been edited by Paranoid (edited 08-19-2004).)
(quote)Originally posted by Swithich: ** Also, I would like to point out that you never arranged a pick up for your pilot. Therefore, it is quite conceivable that a New Cydonian in my system and a Lethe pilot in their system picked the pilots up. So I'm assuming either your pilot died, or was picked up in my system and brought to my planet. And I think the latter is more realistic since so almost all the ships around my planet are cydonian and because most of the ships entering an exiting are Cydonian. Either way, I would like to capture your pilot in my story because I think that is more realistic in the sense of the story, and since you haven't ultimately decided his fate.
{edit}:Hehe, missed that last part, but still your ordered them to be picked up in retrospect??? That seeams a little odd. Oh, well, I'll alter what you think is going to happen anyway. :D)
3. I didn't do any research before doing my post, my bad. I was not actually counting the Corvette and defenders as part of your fleets, they're just what I think of when I look at militias. Therefore, don't take the Corvette out of any of your fleets, because it was only there for the purpose of the story, in fact, i'm gonna edit my post and say that I merely damaged the Corvette. (cryptic grin)
(This message has been edited by Cheezy_Cracker (edited 08-19-2004).) **
This is going very well... Aside from one major argument from the first page, The Endless War has been major problem free. I also like to see how i dont have to step in every time there's a petty disagreement.
Keep up the agreeable attitude everyone. This may yet turn into another Battle For Sol series. :rolleyes:
Yeah, I'll keep dreaming alright...
Thank you Cheezy_Cracker, I just needed some clarrification. Plus your move helps my story plan very much.
Edit: Dark Jet still hasn't showed up. I can't really continue my story without his response. Can I just takeover Lethe or play there part of the story so I can move on?
Yes, you may attack Lethe. I will take control of their defense. You may want to wait till you're guarenteed success though. Your current assult leet doesnt look like enough.
sigh I hate n00bs that join something and then never look back... I should send him spam mail.
Originally posted by U.E. Admiral: **:D This is going very well... Aside from one major argument from the first page, The Endless War has been major problem free. I also like to see how i dont have to step in every time there's a petty disagreement.
Yeah, times have been good. This makes me want to try and get another one going, maybe next month if people are still interested. Search me for a new idea on the story, though. Maybe Aliens vs. Confed/Rebel (whoever wins)
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