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Because of a bug, its said Lasers are better than Protons. I cant remember the bug exactly, probably someone could say it to you. But because you have three Protons on turret and Lasers just have two, Proton Turrets are actually better. So if you go cannons, Lasers are better. If you go Turrets, Protons are better.
Actually this is a bit of a confusing way of looking at things. Both turrets have identical reload rates (10), the reason you see three cannons on the proton turret's outfit picture is because the proton turret has a firing rate which is three times faster than the proton cannon (30). The laser turret's firing rate is twice as fast as the laser cannon (20). Just look at the weapon recourses in ResEdit, and all your questions will be answered.
As far as tactics to destroy the alien cruiser, the simplest way to do it is to do the Astrodyne missions first, and use the tractor beam on it. The cruiser can't turn at all, and is a sitting duck. The only thing you have to worry about at this point is the fighters, but usually they'll go for the government cruiser escort(s) and their fighters, as well as any other government ships in the system. Once you get the hang of it, you can do this with a shuttlecraft, but it takes a really really long time.The seeker drones are only a minor nuisance with a missile jammer, flares, and judicious use of your afterburner.
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Originally posted by Rawzer: **...but he did...
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This could only mean two things: 1. He cheated. 2. Your lying.
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3. He got skillz.
Cheated, sorta.
I lowered the game speed to 50%, and then just stayed behind the Alien Warship.
When the fighters (two of them were on me) proceeded so that they could fire their beams on me, I moved a bit, and there they go, and have to aim again.
The speed could be considered cheating, I guess..
But most of all it was my skillz.
And my iron will to get it done.
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Very impressive, that. I admire that kind of determination. About how many tries did it take to eliminate it?
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Quite many.
It wasn't on Strict Play, if it was, I won't have risked it.
About five to ten tries.
First time I died before I got it down to 80%, thne I did a lot better and finally I did it.
Actually, before I thought the Lightnings were annoying over-expensive lame fighters, but now I really give 'em some respect.
Try it yourself, and you'd be surprised how easy it is...
(quote)Originally posted by Gus: **WOO HOO! WOU WOU WOU WOU!
JES! ;)Great job... just 27 minutes later with a ships as fragile as Lightning and only Lasers and Javelins you did it. The Rebel Destroyer is good... I should try it myself sometime.
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Originally posted by Destroyer E: **This could only mean two things: 1. He cheated. 2. Your lying.
Just because you can't do it doesn't mean that he can't.
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He doubt he's lying Destroyer...its ver possible to destroy the Cruiser with either of the heavy fighters (Raiper, Lightining), it just takes a bit of time and patients....and the distraction of the much more dangerous Fighters....just let the cruiser fire off its seekers before you even attempt moving in.
Can't say I've done with a cheaper ship than a Lightining though....I would imagine a properly beefed up Clipper could work it as well.
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Originally posted by Blackdog: **Just because you can't do it doesn't mean that he can't.
He gots a bag of mad skillzzzzzzzzz. Although, I got a whole box sitting next to me...
Really, though, Kyle and Macavenger both beat that in a scoutship. A scoutship you ask? Yes. Mad Skillzzzzzzzzz.
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(This message has been edited by Jimbob (edited 05-01-2003).)
Actually, take a bit of those skillz from that box of yours, buy a Shuttle, Armaplast, Mass Expansion, Speed Upgrades, Shield Upgrade, Javelin Pod and Lasers, and I guess you could kill it with that..
Destroyer, the easy thing is that it doesn't have any waepons it can fire straight behind it.
Try it, and I'm sure you can do it too.
Did he cheat?
Originally posted by Destroyer E: **Did he cheat?
No. Quote from earlier post: ...after 27 minutes, countless tries and 377 Javelin Rockets, I managed to beat it up, and successfully land on a planet to save my progress
Once, I got it down to 1%, got happy, let my guard down for a few seconds, and there I was, in the middle of a Heavy Fusion Beam, dead.
But finally I cut it!
With a Lightning, 4 Laser Cannons, 1 Laser Turret and 1 Javelin Pod! Yeah!
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Originally posted by General Cade Smart: **No. Quote from earlier post: ...after 27 minutes, countless tries and 377 Javelin Rockets, I managed to beat it up, and successfully land on a planet to save my progress
How many forklifts.
Originally posted by Destroyer E: **How many forklifts.:)
sigh Why cant you believe he did it with skill alone, without cheats? No Forklifts, just Javelins.
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: **sigh Why cant you believe he did it with skill alone, without cheats? No Forklifts, just Javelins.
Sorry, I just find the Aliens hard.
Heh, if I was able to kill it, it doesn't mean they aren't hard!
Tough as hell, but still beatable.
I'm sure nothing can destroy an ALien Fighter..
I haven't ever had a Forklift, so I don't know about that, but I guess the reload time is too much, it would have recharged back to 100%..
Luckily the Standard Fusion Beam doesn't do too much damage.
Originally posted by Gus: I'm sure nothing can destroy an ALien Fighter..
Ha! Wrong again! I used to have a Rebel Cruiser with a tractor beam and four proton turrets. Just caught it, sent my Mantas at it and kept firing away for a few minutes. Just hope no Destroyer comes by and knocks it out of your grip with a heavy rocket or anything...
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(This message has been edited by Clueless (edited 05-07-2003).)
Originally posted by Clueless: **
Ha! Wrong again! I used to have a Rebel Cruiser with a tractor beam and four proton turrets. Just catched it, sent my Mantas at it and kept firing away for a few minutes. Just hope no Destroyer comes by and knocks it out of your grip with a heavy rocket or anything...
I never thought of using a tractor beam, but my method with the N Kestrel works. I also like to use a regular Kestrel and SPACEBOMBS! Fun, fun, fun!
I usually try to destroy the alien fighters too, I can usually get one but the other two fly off the edge.
The trick is you need a lot of turrents to kill a fighter. at least 3 protons and 4 cannons. (they just have so much regeneration)
It is easy to do it in rebel destroyer because it is so fast and has enough turrents. It is easy to do it in a rebel cruiser, only a little harder then a destroyer. It is hard to do it in a maxed krestel. A confed cruiser is very hard because its slow, for a long time I thought it was impossible but I've killed a couple in my confed cruiser. I a confed frigate could do, never tried though. No other ship has enough turrents, i think it is virtually impossible in anything else. All secondary weapons knock the tiny ships around like ping pong balls (except neutrons, but good luck holding enough of those on a non capital ship and actually hitting the little bugger)
You could probably do it with luck and good escorts. But a true master will take down all 5 alien fighters in the string and not just the cruiser, and without any escorts.
I'm going to have to try takeing the cruiser in a lightning. 4 laser cannons, and a laser turrent and tractor beam might be enough, and will be a worthy challenge.
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