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Originally posted by Luke:
Eh... was that an insult or a compliment?

It was just my way of awarding your posting. I like how your character has "personality". I mostly look forward to your posts for this reason.

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DJN - As "Mod" you must be authoritative. Way to go with making a "ruling". It is your job to rule ... not "be liked." You may have revived the story....

- KK

<Edit> Sorry DJN. I must have a mental "French block." </Edit>

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(This message has been edited by Kaptain Karl (edited 04-30-2002).)

(This message has been edited by Kaptain Karl (edited 04-30-2002).)

You guys need to stop posting here and start a new topic... this one has well exceeded its limit and is due for an iLock.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**You guys need to stop posting here and start a new topic... this one has well exceeded its limit and is due for an iLock.

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The limits have been thrown out while you were gone. I'm not sure there is a maximum anymore.

~IE

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Originally posted by Iron Eagle:
**The limits have been thrown out while you were gone. I'm not sure there is a maximum anymore.

~IE

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Scratch that, then. Seems as though a few other forum rules have been changed as well during my absence...

I'm glad that's the case, as it will make webstories much easier to manage.

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Hehe, forget the Lethe homepage and mission comp.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**Scratch that, then. Seems as though a few other forum rules have been changed as well during my absence...

I'm glad that's the case, as it will make webstories much easier to manage.

**

If you're back in control of the next one, I'd be interested in expanding the online presence with certain a website that I have some ties with.

😉

~IE

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Um, Nova6 posted a question near the end of page 5 about the mercenaries. Can anybody answer that?

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I am posting my new stats for theLiberty Station government in the webstory thread. Included is fleet research, fleet purchases, and the defense fleet purchase. I'm sorry that I'm violating your request, NDJ, but I feel that posting it will clarify a lot about my new position.

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Okay, I guess I'm in then.

So, when would be a good time to start? Are the rules similar to the BFS III rules? If so, I'm going to be confused most of the time. 🙂

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Rak, I can tell that you are really angry about how all this turned out, I just want to say that I am sorry that you feel betrayed. I tried to do something to revive this webstory before it all became a total mess, seems I only really succeeded in making a lot of people angry. I had no intention of forcing you to resign, in fact I am still shocked that you chose to do so.

NDJ, I sortof understand you modifying my proposal as far as the Battle of Yemuro goes, but seriously what basis do you have for killing off all 60 of Rak's Prowlers and 5 of his Mk. II Cruisers? The whole point of my proposal was to give the Rebels an even playing field... not an open door to Sol. I wouldn't mind taking out about half of those ships but all 60 is a bit too much.

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Originally posted by Iron Eagle:
**I love all of the numbers being thrown around in this one.. so that means if I **** up really, really bad that you'll give me a crap load of cash and a **** load of fleets to start over with? Come on people, this is getting silly

**

I love you, too. The feds had almost twice as many ships, three times as many people, at least, and four times as much money. Plus you had a start. Screw all this, I quit. This isn't any fun. You especially make me mad IE, continually.

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Originally posted by Jimbob:
**I love you, too. The feds had almost twice as many ships, three times as many people, at least, and four times as much money. Plus you had a start. Screw all this, I quit. This isn't any fun. You especially make me mad IE, continually.

**

Jimbob, seriously, what do you have to be angry about besides IE? You have three new fleets and a second chance for this webstory, don't throw it away just because you are angry now.

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Originally posted by Jimbob:
**I love you, too. The feds had almost twice as many ships, three times as many people, at least, and four times as much money. Plus you had a start. Screw all this, I quit. This isn't any fun. You especially make me mad IE, continually.
**

So you get everything you want and you still whine. Don't blame others for the crappy playing that your 'president' did in the first few posts. Also, the choices to lose your fleet were mostly yours. You've noone to blame but yourself. Just to top it off, when the mod makes a huge change in the balance of power, you still aren't happy. Geez..

Have a nice day-
~IE
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Originally posted by Jimbob:
**I love you, too. The feds had almost twice as many ships, three times as many people, at least, and four times as much money. Plus you had a start. Screw all this, I quit. This isn't any fun. You especially make me mad IE, continually.

**

Jimbob, wtf are you whining about? Singlehandedly you dealt a ****load of damage to Fed fleets at Yemuro and now you have more fleets to play with. A few days of concentrated effort and the Rebellion should be back to normal.

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Urgh, looking over some of this stuff, it's just too confusing. Tell you what, how about if I sit this one out, and start working up something more along the lines of BFS I? I'm beginning to become quite sure that less is more in terms of rules. Hell, BFS I was the best one I've ever seen on this board, and it had effectively no rules and no external resources, aside from a Map DA built once that was never updated. I'll see if I can work out a very basic framework to be compatible with the larger number of players involved in this one.

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Oooh, sounds nice I want to be Zaxted.

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GR, can I have a price for my Ariadne?

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I finally got more than fifteen minutes free (!!) now; so listen:
In the beginning of April I stated that I would be able to come once per night, I have been unable to do such thing over a period of five days. My error was to make myself unclear about whether not I could actively moderate this story for the benefits of all participants. All knows the result: the story has turned to vinegar. This is also due to my inexperience of both moderation and my smaller knowledge of the participant, mainly General Rak. I name you because when you started to organize the story, you looked in control and knew what you were doing. From this, I suspected that GR would continue to act with care during the webstory, which did not happen. My reaction time to this was unfortunately of a three days, too much for non-college student-workers, well unlike people like me. This long text contains my point of view of my participation to this interesting story.

You, as a whole, can accept this proposition:

Never Two Without Three

Rak's fleet:

Alpha Force: Regulus
Flagship: Confederate Cruiser Mk. II RNS Benevolent
1 Confederate Cruiser Mk. II
30 Orbital Defense Sentinels
5 Confederate Cruisers
10 Confederate Frigates
24 Prowler Corvettes

Beta Force: Pollux
Flagship: Confederate Frigate RNS Democracy
20 Orbital Defense Sentinels
40 Gunboats
12 Confederation Frigates
12 Prowler Corvettes

Delta Force: Antares
Flagship: Confederate Cruiser Mk. II RNS Sovereign
4 Confederate Cruisers Mk. II
10 Orbital Defense Sentinels
22 Prowler Corvettes

VAI's fleet:

Battle Group One
Marshal Ipvicus Commanding
1 Confederate Cruiser CUP-1, R.N.S. Enterprise, Flagship
3 Confederate Fragates
8 Prowler Corvettes
12 Gunboats
24 Patrol Ships

Battle Group Two
Attached to Marshal Ipvicus, Capella
1 Confederate Cruiser CUP-1
3 Confederate Fragates
8 Prowler Corvettes
12 Gunboats
24 Patrol Ships

Battle Group Three
Attached to Marshal Ipvicus, Capella
1 Confederate Cruiser
3 Confederate Fragates
8 Prowler Corvettes
12 Gunboats
24 Patrol Ships

Battle Group Four
Ipvicus Secondry Command Posted to Pollux
1 Confederate Cruiser CUP-1
3 Confederate Fragates
8 Prowler Corvettes
12 Gunboats
24 Patrol Ships

Battle Group Five
Ipvicus Secondry Command Posted to Pollux
1 Confederate Cruiser
3 Confederate Fragates
8 Prowler Corvettes
12 Gunboats
24 Patrol Ships

Part 1: General Rak puts in Matar: 27-04-02

12 Gunboats
24 Patrol Ships

Part 2: Jimbob's post 27-04-02

42nd Fleet, General Jimbob's
Stationed in Turin
Rebel Cruisers: 10
Rebel Warbirds: 15
Rebel Destroyers: 25
Rebel Mantas: 450

Fleet, President UE Admirals
Stationed in Palshife
Rebel Cruisers: 10
Rebel Warbirds: 15
Rebel Destroyers: 25
Rebel Mantas: 450

101st brigade, controlled by Jimbob
Sationed in Atropos
5 Rebel Cruisers
10 Rebel Warbids
10 Rebel Destroyers
100 Rebel Mantas

Part 3: VAI moves to Rigel the following

Battle Group One
1 Confederate Cruiser CUP-1, R.N.S. Enterprise, Flagship
3 Confederate Fragates
8 Prowler Corvettes
12 Gunboats
24 Patrol Ships

Battle Group Two
1 Confederate Cruiser CUP-1
3 Confederate Fragates
8 Prowler Corvettes
12 Gunboats
24 Patrol Ships

Part 4: VAI and his Jakazi force 27-04-02

Jakazi Force Destroyed

Rebel 42nd Fleet
4 Rebel Cruisers (6 destroyed)
11 Warbirds (4 Destroyed)
19 Destroyers (6 Destroyed)
378 Mantas (72 Destroyed)

Part 5 IE comes, 28-04-02

15 Atinoda Kestrel(s)
10 Maskirovka IPV-1 Corvette
30 CDX Starworks Rapier
10 Blazitron F-563 Lightning
25 Atinoda Kestrel(s)
40 Maskirovka IPV-1 Corvette(s)
25 CDX Starworks Argosy(s)
100 CDX Starworks Rapier(s)

Part 6 Jimbob 28-04-02

101 now in Zaphod

Part7: Rak builds from ? Ariel's fleet 28-04-02

Theta Force: Polaris
4 Cruisers Mk. II
7 ODSs
10 Prowlers
40 Patrol Ships
70 Gunboats

Xeta Force: Matar
10 ODSs
6 Cruisers Mk. II
20 Prowlers
60 Patrol Ships
50 Gunboats

Zeta Force: Capella
4 ODSs
30 Patrol Ships
40 Gunboats
10 Prowlers
2 Cruisers Mk. II

Part 8: IE invades Kathoon 28-04-02

Battlegroup1 in levo

BattleGroup2: in kathoon
37 Corvettes
21 Argosys
43 Rapiers

Part 9: Jimbob takes control of Yemuro 28-04-02

Rebel 42nd Fleet
4 Rebel Cruisers
11 Warbirds
19 Destroyers
375 Mantas , 3 destroyed

101st brigade, controlled by Jimbob
5 Rebel Cruisers
10 Rebel Warbids
10 Rebel Destroyers
91 Rebel Mantas, 9 destroyed

Jimbob then ordered a temporary brigade to be formed, sending 5 warbirds, 5 destroyers, 40 mantas and a rebel cruiser to Risa.

13th Brigade
Stationed in Risa.
1 Rebel Cruiser
5 Rebel Destroyers
5 Rebel Warbirds
40 Rebel Mantas

101st Brigade
4 R.C
5 R.D
5 R.W
51 R.M
Currently in Yemuro with Jimbobs fleet. Yemuro Defense fleet: 1 RC, 1 Escort Carrier, 1 RW, 6 Rebel mantas.

Part 10: General Rak 28-04-02

Lets 7 ODS in Rigel

Theta Force attack the fleet in 13 brigade in Risa, remains:
Confederate Cruisers Mk. II: 4
Prowler Corvettes: 4
Gunboats: 40
Patrol Ships: 20

13th Brigade
1 Rebel Cruiser (Heavily Damaged)
1 Rebel Destroyer
15 Rebel Mantas

GR send SOG-3 and Xeta Yemuro, SOG-3 comes from ??

Confederate BattleGroup:
Confederate Cruisers Mk. II: 5
Prowler Corvettes: 6
Confederate Frigates: 3
Gunboats: 40
Patrol Ships: 45

Rebel fleet (including defense fleet):
5 Rebel Cruisers
14 Rebel Destroyers
4 Rebel Warbirds
350 Rebel Mantas
1 Escort Carrier

Fleet Stats for Matar:
10 ODSs
Confederate Cruisers Mk. II: 1
Prowler Corvettes: 8
Confederate Frigates: 3
Gunboats: 12
Patrol Ships: 24
- Defense Fleet -

Fleet Stats for Polaris:
7 ODSs
- Defense Fleet -

Capture of Thanos by GR

Part 11: IE comes in Yemuro 28-04-02

UMG BattleGroup2:
Corvettes - 37
Argosys - 21
Rapiers - 43

Part 12: Jimbob sends the Pashlife fleet 28-04-02

Palshife fleet
Rebel Cruisers: 7, 3 destroyed
Rebel Warbirds: 11, 4 destroyed
Rebel Destroyers: 20 5 destroyed
Rebel Mantas: 250, 200 destroyed

Rebel fleet (including defense fleet):
3 Rebel Cruisers, 2 destroyed
10 Rebel Destroyers 4 destroyed
1 Rebel Warbirds, 3 destroyed
300 Rebel Mantas, 50 destroyed
Confederate BattleGroup:
Confederate Cruisers Mk. II: 1, 4 destroyed
Prowler Corvettes: 2, 4 destroyed
Confederate Frigates: 1, 2 destroyed
Patrol Ships: 2, 43 destroyed

Sends some ships to Risa:
Theta Force:
Confederate Cruisers Mk. II: 2, 2 destroyed
Prowler Corvettes: 2, 2 destroyed
Gunboats: 15, 25 destroyed
Patrol Ships: 19, 1 destroyed.

13th Brigade
1 Rebel Destroyer
10 Mantas, 5 destroyed

Part13: GR sends the remaining of Asriel's fleet to Turin, without losses ???

Theta Force:
Confederate Cruisers Mk. II: 2
Prowler Corvettes: 1
Gunboats: 14
Patrol Ships: 18

Part 14 GR sends the Zeta force to Levo:

Confederate Cruisers Mk. II: 2
Prowler Corvettes: 10
Orbital Defense Sentinels: 4
Gunboats: 40
Patrol Ships: 30

Part 15: VAI

Battle Group One/ Remaining Allied Ships
2 Confederate Cruisers Mk. II (1 Heavily Damaged, R.N.S. Defiant)
3 Confederate Frigates (1 Destroyed)
8 Prowlers (2 Destroyed 3 Moderately damaged)
40 Gunboats (11 Destroyed)
103 Patrol Ships (23 Destroyed)
29 Corvettes (8 Destroyed)
15 Argosies (6 Destroyed)
39 Rapiers (9 Destroyed)

Rebel Palshife Fleet
5 Rebel Cruisers (2 Destroyed)
7 Rebel Warbirds (4 Destroyed)
18 Rebel Destroyers (2 Destroyed)
202 Mantas (48 Destroyed

Rebel 42nd Fleet
2 Rebel Cruisers (1 Destroyed 1 Heavily damaged)
7 Rebel Destroyers (3 Destroyed 4 Damaged)
(1 Rebel Warbird Destroyed)
236 (64 Destroyed)

Battle Group Three en route
1 Confederate Cruiser
3 Confederate Frigates
8 Prowler Corvettes
12 Gunboats
24 Patrol Ships

Part 16: IE's battle group 1:
2 Mk. II Cruisers
25 Kestrels
10 Prowler Corvettes
50 Rapiers
25 Lightnings

Part 17 Asriel's Zeta for unloaded fighters

Confederate Cruisers Mk. II: 4
Prowler Corvettes: 30
Gunboats: 48
Patrol Ships: 46

Part 18 Asriel moves his Zeta to Turin and captures it

Final fleet numbers:
2 Cruiser mk. II
19 Prowler Corvettes
34 Gunboats
38 Patrol Ships

Part 19 GR's organization:

To Regulus:
11 Cruisers Mk. II: 140.91M
40 Prowler Corvettes: 97.6M
Total: 238.51M

To Antares:
20 Prowler Corvettes: 48.8M
4 Cruisers Mk. II: 51.24
Total: 100.04M

To Matar:
50 ODSs: 81M
10 Cruisers Mk. II: 128.1M
60 Prowlers: 146.4M
Total: 355.5M

To Rigel:
50 Darts: 28.3M
Total: 28.3M

To Levo:
15 ODSs: 24.3M
Total: 24.3M

Zaphod Defense Fleet:
1 Cruiser Mk. II: 12.81M
6 ODSs: 9.72M
Total: 22.53M

Turin Defense Fleet:
1 Cruiser Mk. II: 12.81M
6 ODSs: 9.72M
Total: 22.53M

Part 20: Jimbob's Yemuro:
Battle Group One/ Remaining Allied Ships
2 Confederate Cruisers Mk. II destroyed, no remain
1 Confederate Frigates (2 Destroyed, 1 heavily damaged)
1 Prowlers (7 Destroyed)
15 Gunboats (25 Destroyed)
52 Patrol Ships (101 Destroyed)
12 Corvettes (17 Destroyed)
3 Argosies (6 Destroyed)
26 Rapiers (13 Destroyed)

Rebel Palshife Fleet
4 Rebel Cruisers (1 Destroyed, 1 damaged)
4 Rebel Warbirds (3 Destroyed)
10 Rebel Destroyers (8 Destroyed)
152 Mantas (51 Destroyed

Rebel 42nd Fleet
5 Rebel Cruisers (3 destroyed)
20 Rebel Destroyers (11 destroyed)
10 Rebel Warbirds (8 destroyed)
215 mantas deployed (123 destroyed)

VAI's Yemuro:
Battle Group One
1 Confederate Cruiser Mk.II (R.N.S. Enterprise, Critical Damage)
2 Prowler Corvettes (6 Destroyed)
8 Patrol Ships (16 Destroyed)
3 Gunboats (9 Destroyed)

Battle Group Three
1 Confederate Cruiser
3 Confederate Frigates
7 Prowler Corvettes (1 Destroyed)
20 Patrol Ships (4 Destroyed)
9 Gunboats (3 Destroyed)

Task Force Theta
1 Confederate Cruiser Mk.II (R.N.S. Hood, Disabled)
1 Prowler Corvette
5 Patrol Ships
2 Gunboats

181st Republican Fighter Group
16 Patrol Ships (8 Destroyed)
8 Gunboats (4 Destroyed)

All Other Confederate Forces Destroyed

Levo Battle Group 2
14 Corvettes (15 Destroyed)
5 Argosies (5 Destroyed
32 Rapiers (7 Destroyed)

Rebel Palshife Fleet
1 Rebel Cruiser (4 Destroyed)
2 Rebel Warbirds (5 Destroyed)
8 Rebel Destroyers (14 Destroyed)
43 Mantas (109 Destroyed)

Rebel 42nd Fleet
3 Rebel Cruisers (5 Destroyed)
12 Rebel Destroyers (19 Destroyed)
64 Mantas (278 Destroyed)
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After all this crap being analyzed, I propose the following start-up:

After the Battle of Yemuro won by the Confederation, the Rebels retreated to Turin, when the Zeta force was actually coming in to support the so-called alliance. The Rebel had to fight against the defense fleet.

Turin is under the Rebellion flag:

Defense Fleet (unusual one, Jimbob please rewrite one for each type of system):
-3 RC
-4 RW
-4RD
-20 RM

xxxx Fleet Turin:
-3 RC
-7 RW
-12 RD
-43 RM

xxxx Fleet Alkaid:
-4 RC
-7 RW
-15 RD
-27 RM

xxxx Fleet Spica
-2 RC
-10 RW
-12 RD
-13 RM

xxxx Fleet Ursa:
-1 RC
-5 RW
-5 RD
-20 RM

xxxx Fleet Agena:
-1 RC
-6 RW
-3 RD
-14 RM

xxxx Fleet Nemesis:
-1 RC
-6 RW
-3 RD
-14 RM

xxxx Fleet Sirgil:
-1 RC
-6 RW
-3 RD
-14 RM

xxxx Fleet Orion:
-2 RC
-16 RW
-10 RD
-35 RM

xxxx Fleet Clotho:
-2 RC
-16 RW
-10 RD
-50 RM

xxxx Fleet Apollo:
-16 RW
-10 RD
-30 RM

xxxx Fleet Adhara:
-11 RW
-10 RD
-20 RM

Rebel Worlds:
Apollo, Clotho, Orion, Agena, Ursa, Scorpio, Sirgil, Virgo, Topaz, Nemesis, Spica, Cygnus, Alkaid, Satori, Persephone, Turin and Adhara.

+ 75 millions for any adjustments to be done to the fleets.

Confederated Worlds:

Osiris, El Santo, Tiber, Thanos, Atropos, Zaphod, Yemuro, NGC-6564, Sol, Antares, Pollux, Vega, Regulus, Tau Ceti, Procyon, Barnard, Capella, Rigel, Matar, Sirius and Polaris.

The Confederation has:
-25 Cruisers Mk II to put anywhere it wants ion Fleets, DF are the same.
-25 Cruiser to put anywhere needed
-80 Frigates to put .
-170 Prowlers .
-200 Gunboats
-350 Patrol Ships .
-90 ODS .

+ 50 Millions to do any thing else.

Iron Eagle:

You have Levo and Kathoon, if you still want it.
Your Ships:

-4 MkII Cruisers
-35 Kestrels
-25 Corvettes
-60 Rapiers
-60 Lightnings
-10 ODS

As for General Rak, I accept your current situation. You still have the possibility to be elected at the next confed elections on the fifth of may

You may be pleased
You may become red
But don't chop my head!
But rather continue as pleased

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Reine de ce Monde.

(This message has been edited by Ne Demord Jamais (edited 05-01-2002).)

Noav6, or Carno tell to him, that the Mercenaires are available. They could be stationned at the same place as Spl-Cadet or at an independent world not yet conquered. He could aslo play for the Confed or Rebel if Rak decides to stay as an independent.

MacAvenger, the Cydonians are still alive, gazza 2001 won't play with you. Carno is pleaceful (how strange)

I.

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Reine de ce Monde.

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Originally posted by Ne Demord Jamais:
**Noav6, or Carno tell to him, that the Mercenaires are available. They could be stationned at the same place as Spl-Cadet or at an independent world not yet conquered. He could aslo play for the Confed or Rebel if Rak decides to stay as an independent.
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Well, thing is, he doesn't know how much money he gets to make his fleet.

Mac; check your e-mail.

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