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Originally posted by Macavenger: **This comment appears to me the mark of an inferior pilot, who has no comprehension of the value of maneuverability.:p
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Which-in my opinion-is all that matters.
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Originally posted by Macavenger: **...blah, blah, blah, what I say doesn't matter, blah, blah, blah...
Yeah, I was talking about A.I. vs. A.I., Mack. The Rebel Destroyer that you are talking about is piloted by a human, who knows how to manipulate the A.I., and is upgraded with speed upgrades, cloak and tractor beam, and gads of primary weapons and torpedoes. If you want to play that way, then a Shuttle is better than a Cruiser. By the way, my pilot Rawzer Strogart has a Confederate Cruiser upgraded with all armor, shields, fuel and afterburner, primaries (one extra laser cannon than Rebel Cruiser), and I still had enough room for two bomb racks and 50 or so bombs (which I'm going to replace with Torps or Missiles). I'd kick your butt in your puny little Destroyer with my awesome firepower and strength. It doesn't matter how many times you'd have to retreat, I'd still blow you to high heaven.
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Originally posted by Macavenger: !) Alien Fighter 2) Alien Cruiser 3) Rebel Destroyer 4) Rebel Cruiser 5) Confed Cruiser 6) Confed Frigate 7) Corvette
Here's my opinion:
&%$!) Alien Fighter 2) Alien Cruiser 3) Rebel Destroyer 4) Rebel Cruiser 5) Confed Cruiser 6) Corvette 7) Confed Frigate
Yeah, the Frigate really, really sucks. This, of course, is with a human using the ships.
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Originally posted by Rawzer: **I'd kick your butt in your puny little Destroyer with my awesome firepower and strength. It doesn't matter how many times you'd have to retreat, I'd still blow you to high heaven.
You'd be a sitting duck against an experienced destroyer pilot. If you're going to talk human vs human here, then the Confederation cruiser is in for some serious trouble. Bring it on, man! Mac and I will show you.
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The Confederate Cruiser is the best ship in the game.
I am merely stating facts. It is, really. Put the Confederate Cruiser one on one (or more, with certain ships) with any ship, and the the Confederate Cruiser will win. (Save for Confed Cruiser vs. Confed Cruiser :p). However, this is just speaking about AIs.
With HI (human intelligence), you could take down the Confederate Cruiser in a Shuttlecraft, as long as you play your cards right. Well, at least theoreticaly. I can manage to take down a Confederate Cruiser in a Rapier, which is better than my prevous failed attempts in a fully loaded Kestrel. Now you're probably wondering if I got a point, or if I am just bragging.
/me thinks
Ah, yes... The Confederate Cruiser is the best ship in the game, hence better than the Rebel Destroyer.
The Rebel Destroyer is not a very good ship. It's an okay ship, which I only use if I board it (oh, I never shooooot at it of course ;)). It's fast, but so what? If you want speed, buy a Defender. The Kestrel is much better than the Rebel Cruiser - not to mention how much cooler the Kestrel looks.
I just realized that I haven't seen a Rebel Destroyer vs. a Kestrel (not what I can recall at least). Which ship would win that fight?
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Put the Confederate Cruiser one on one (or more, with certain ships) with any ship, and the the Confederate Cruiser will win. (Save for Confed Cruiser vs. Confed Cruiser :p).
With the Cruiser vs Cruiser, how can the Cruiser not win?!
Anyway, as regards AI, the Confed Cruiser is without a doubt the best available ship in the game. As a player though, the most devastating weapon, above all those purchaseable, is speed. With it you can avoid every attack, and strike like lightning (the freak weather condition, not the ship) with your own.
Ay carumba, that sounded pretentious. What I mean is it's obvious which ship dominates with the AI, but as regards the player, all ships can be defeated with the Destroyer, thus saving a substantial amount of credits and time!
Voila!
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Originally posted by Pippin: **With the Cruiser vs Cruiser, how can the Cruiser not win?!
Oh well, in this stressed-up world where time is more precious than life itself (the world we live in), saving time is most important. Hence the Confederate Cruiser is much better, as you shot down Scoutships much fast with it, than with a Rebel Destroyer.
Ahhh, but as time is of the essence, it can only be concluded that the Destroyer is the better of the two ships, as the Cruiser is perhaps the slowest ship in the game
Originally posted by Pippin: **Ahhh, but as time is of the essence, it can only be concluded that the Destroyer is the better of the two ships, as the Cruiser is perhaps the slowest ship in the game
I was refering to the act of killing. And, with the Confederate Cruiser, you do not need to flee away, like you need with the wimpy Rebel Destroyer.
You migh add that I seldom use the Rebel Destroyer - and that's for a reason.
Rebel destroyer will waste Kestral, but not by much, 10% shield after the Kestral got blow up.
Originally posted by dudz: **Rebel destroyer will waste Kestral
Yes, and a Confederate Cruiser could waste 5 Kestrals. Probably.
Originally posted by Rawzer: **Yes, and a Confederate Cruiser could waste 5 Kestrals. Probably. **
Nah, the odds are definitely stacked against the Cruiser in this case. Five Kestrels along with their Lightnings would turn a Confed Cruiser into scrap in no time. Think of all of those torpedo launchers, not to mention rocket runs by the Lightnings.
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Originally posted by Myriad: Nah, the odds are definitely stacked against the Cruiser in this case. Five Kestrels along with their Lightnings would turn a Confed Cruiser into scrap in no time. Think of all of those torpedo launchers, not to mention rocket runs by the Lightnings.
Yeah, that's just sad. You have a total of 5 ships versus a total of 15. Not very fair for the 'Fed Cruiser.
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Originally posted by EVula: **Yeah, that's just sad. You have a total of 5 ships versus a total of 15. Not very fair for the 'Fed Cruiser.
Now, now... It's a Confederation ship. Of course it's fair!
Originally posted by spl_cadet: **That's like saying that carriers are worthless for tactics because they are large and slow. A Confed Cruiser will easily slaughter a rebel destroyer in human vs human as well. 4 fighters buzzing the destroyer will lower its shields at least by a quarter and in the meantime the cruiser is firing missiles and torps. No matter who the destroyer goes after it will get nailed. And if the destroyer comes too close to the cruiser it gets nailed by the cruiser's primary weapons. Any secondaries that the destroyer might be able to toss out are negligent as the cruiser can take far more than the destroyer can dish out.
Even if someone else replied: Dude, torps only go so far. And in an upgraded destroyer, you don't have to worry about them cause torps only launch at slow ships. And you can take out the fighters with 12 missles by going out of missle range from the cruiser and firing at the fighters. And who said that it doesn't have a chance against primaries? I admit it may ahve more, but he secondaries do enough damage so that the pilot can take the cruisers fire (dodging neutron, of course) without worrying about losing. And the things a boat, it can't move. Like Skyblade said, it's very near immpossible to devolop a good tatcic with one.
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I got a question about the ship ungrade, is that 40 tons of armour nesscary?
Originally posted by dudz: **I got a question about the ship ungrade, is that 40 tons of armour nesscary? **
I find it depends entirely on what ship you are in, and the kind of tactics you are using. If you're a fan of pure melee combat, then I would imagine that you would prefer to have every shield and armor upgrade you can get to go with all of your turrets and cannons. However, if you're more of a long range/runner type, I'd focus more of my space on torps and flare launchers rather then armor upgrades. Just personal preference of course-
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How can anyone say that any ship is better in a human-v-human fight? It depends on the human. I've wasted two Confed Cruisers in my Destroyer. Anyone who says speed os a worthless factor is just not skilled enough to realise its importance.
whats flare launchers?