Friendly Fire

I (in my corvette) happend to acquire a Rebel Destroyer. I am currently alligned with the confeds, and thay keep attacking me for no apparrent reason. Why?

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The Inherent Government (this can be altered in ResEdit) of the ship is for the Rebels, so the feds attack you. If you had a confed ship, rebels would attack you. You can fix this in ResEdit.

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Originally posted by P-Psycho:
**I (in my corvette) happend to acquire a Rebel Destroyer. I am currently alligned with the confeds, and thay keep attacking me for no apparrent reason. Why?

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My guess: incredibly stupid A.I. Same thing happened to me except I was in a Frigate, about to acquire another Rebel Cruiser Escort, and Rebel Destroyers kept attacking. They killed me once, I think. It's a horribly slow ship.

I think that the A.I. Rebels will automatically attack Confederate ships, and vice versa. Just live with it.

Or get a new ship. A Destroyer will fetch a quite good trade-in price toward a new Cruiser or Frigate. They're really not so bad with speed upgrades. In fact, quite good.

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Supid A.I.? It is a feature of the game. Look at the inherentgov field in resedit. Each ship is set to a governement, and the enemies of that government will attack that ship no matter what. Same thing like allies.

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Originally posted by Rawzer:
**My guess: incredibly stupid A.I.
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More like logical A.I. Think about it: you're in your Manta, patrolling the Clotho system, and all of a sudden, a Confed Frigate comes out of hyperspace. What are you gonna do, scan to see who it is? Hell no.

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Originally posted by Starkiller:
**More like logical A.I. Think about it: you're in your Manta, patrolling the Clotho system, and all of a sudden, a Confed Frigate comes out of hyperspace. What are you gonna do, scan to see who it is? Hell no.
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Of course, if I was in the Manta, I would run, not hurl myself upon the sword. Can't wait to see Nova's AI fix that problem. ๐Ÿ™‚

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Speaking of Nova's AI, when (hopefully not if) the EV Nova AI upgrade for EV comes out, that will fix it too. i've also experienced problems like that. I stole a confed cruiser and got attacked by rebels. Being an Honored leader, I was confused, but I finally found the prob. I released the cruiser and blew it up for a thousand more kills. ๐Ÿ˜›

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Originally posted by Jimbob:
**Speaking of Nova's AI, when (hopefully not if) the EV Nova AI upgrade for EV comes out, that will fix it too. i've also experienced problems like that. I stole a confed cruiser and got attacked by rebels. Being an Honored leader, I was confused, but I finally found the prob. I released the cruiser and blew it up for a thousand more kills.:p
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The Nova AI Upgrade for EV will be done by me if no one else, but I don't think that by itself will fix it, unfortunately. To be effective, it would still have to call on the strength field in the shฤp resource, which isn't available in EV. I may try to improvise something, though...

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Originally posted by Macavenger:
**Of course, if I was in the Manta, I would run, not hurl myself upon the sword. Can't wait to see Nova's AI fix that problem.:)

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It's not my fault that you're a bad pilot. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Originally posted by Starkiller:
It's not my fault that you're a bad pilot.;)

Haha, I meant from an AI vs. AI perspective. Taking on a 'Fed Refrigerator in an upgraded Manta isn't exactly hard.

Though that too may change with Nova... ๐Ÿ˜‰ It remains to be seen.

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Has anyone else come across the strange coincidence where a confed will attack a confed, and a rebel a rebel? This has only happened a few times, but I don't know why. Does anyone know?

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Originally posted by Azdara Ace:
Has anyone else come across the strange coincidence where a confed will attack a confed, and a rebel a rebel? This has only happened a few times, but I don't know why. Does anyone know?

I believe that there is a "traitor" government for each government, and a few pรซrs for that purpose. Perhaps you were seeing a Trator Rebel piloting a Rebel Destroyer, which would account for the appearant Rebel vs. Rebel fights (same for the Confeds).

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Yes, I have. it happens to be because the two are both fighting the same pirate or confed/rebel and one of them accidently hits the other with a laser. The one that gets hit thinks he did it on purpose and attacks him. I think thats another AI problem.

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Originally posted by Jimbob:
The one that gets hit thinks he did it on purpose and attacks him.

Talk about paranoia... ๐Ÿ™‚

I'm going to release "Moderation", a collection of little plugs that make a few changes here and there (each is seperate, should you not want all of the "fixes"). One of them will strip ships of their gรถvt, so you won't have the problem of being attacked when in the "wrong" ship.

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You mean captured ships? Because if all the ships don't have a Gov, the game is, well, easy.

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Originally posted by Jimbob:
You mean captured ships? Because if all the ships don't have a Gov, the game is, well, easy.

I think he means he took out the inherent government, which only affects the player's ship.

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Alright, that's cool. I'll be looking for it, EVula.

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