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Hangon,surely the Hawk is a Pirate vessel The HC already has Mantas,Dragonflies,and Star Cobras!
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Originally posted by Shade: **Hangon,surely the Hawk is a Pirate vessel The HC already has Mantas,Dragonflies,and Star Cobras! **
Since the Hawk was originally civilian, I don't see why we can't take the plans and modify them.
As for your protest about number of fighters, I'm sorta seeing this as a replacement for the Dragonfly right now. Haven't settled on it's new name yet. It won't be the Hawk.
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Originally posted by Macavenger: **Since the Hawk was originally civilian, I don't see why we can't take the plans and modify them.
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Yeah, the Dragonfly is rather old when you bring military terms to mind. Perhaps the Hawk would be a good replacement for it...
How about naming it the Skyhawk? It's the name "Hawk," only the added "Sky" makes it sound modified.
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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade: **How about naming it the Skyhawk? It's the name "Hawk," only the added "Sky" makes it sound modified. **
I have a few names in mind, and that is one of them. I'd quickly choose Star Viper if not for the fact that we already have a fighter named the Star Cobra. I don't know if I want to get into starting a pattern there or not.
Originally posted by Captain Skyblade: How about naming it the Skyhawk? It's the name "Hawk," only the added "Sky" makes it sound modified.
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Originally posted by Shade: **I swear, nothing gos on on the EV,EVO,EV Dev,EV NOVA,or EV Gallery without David Arthur noticing. I'm drawing up ideas for an Alien Gunboat. Abandon hope all ye who enter combat with the Imperium! **
:Looks at Lancer: You mean to tell me that the Aliens actually think that they can make better fighters than we pirates? That's the funniest thing I've ever heard of.
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Not faster,or more maneverable...just with firepower heavy enough to kill M6 Destroyers,in pairs.That is,a pair of Gunboats will be able to kill an M6.
I gotta agree with Shade here spl_, the Lancer just can't go against Alien Fighters. Trust me, I designed one of them.
Originally posted by David Arthur: **...with the added benefit of being a tribute to a one-time moderator of the EV WWWBoard and DiscBoard.:)
Of course, that might not be such a bad idea...
Mac, feel free to call the fighter "Star Viper" if you like. Since there is already a "Star" fighter in the Human Confederation Navy, it seems like a good idea.
LRBM's and Tri-photon say otherwise people. One of the nice things about the Lancer is its manueverability. While your fighters are trying to shoot it down it will be flying loops around them. And the Alien Gunboat appears to be a bomber type then, well just looks like I'll have to make something to destroy it.
We have Interceptors to take down fighters,as well as Destroyers. We have Gunboats and Heavy Fighters for attacks on heavy vessels.
Originally posted by Shade: **We have Interceptors to take down fighters,as well as Destroyers. **
Exactly.
Trust me spl_cadet, he's very right about the Destroyer.
Do not be afraid of it. Be very, very frightened of it.
I know, I designed it. Your Lancers have nothing on an Alien Destroyer.
Originally posted by Shade: **We have Interceptors to take down fighters,as well as Destroyers. We have Gunboats and Heavy Fighters for attacks on heavy vessels. **
We have Drakes and Valkyries to take out Interceptors and Desotroyers We have Lancers to take out enemy fighters and bombers We have the whole freaking fleet for attacks on heavy vessels.
Originally posted by Macavenger: **Exactly.
I know, I designed it. Your Lancers have nothing on an Alien Destroyer.**
Correct me if I'm wrong but the destroyer is a warship correct? Thus, as an alien warship the Lancer was not designed to go after it. It was designed to go after alien fighters and HC fighters and light capital warships.
Originally posted by spl_cadet: **We have Drakes and Valkyries to take out Interceptors and Desotroyers We have Lancers to take out enemy fighters and bombers We have the whole freaking fleet for attacks on heavy vessels. **
First, I don't really think a Drake could beat an Alien Destroyer 1 on 1, though it would be close. Valkyries will be hideously outnumbered by Destroyers in the average fleet, and engaged mostly be Battlecruisers anyway, I imagine. Lancers will get scrapped by Interceptors and Destroyers. Your fleet will then be screwed by the Heavy fighters which your Lancers failed to take out.
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Originally posted by spl_cadet: **Correct me if I'm wrong but the destroyer is a warship correct? Thus, as an alien warship the Lancer was not designed to go after it. It was designed to go after alien fighters and HC fighters and light capital warships. **
You're right, but it was designed to go after your fighters.
Suffice it to say that any fighter getting near the thing is toast, no ifs, ands, or buts.
Originally posted by Macavenger: **You're right, but it was designed to go after your fighters.
Suffice it to say that any fighter getting near the thing is toast, no ifs, ands, or buts. **
Who said we had to go near it? A Halberd with it's complement of 75 fighters of fleet commanders choice is incredibly dangerous. In fact one using a complement of 75 fighters would end up doing the equivalent of 600 torpedoes without having to rearm the Lancers. Gunstars would be even worse. It appears to me that you will fear us instead. And thanks for giving me the idea for a new ships. It's gonna waste the aliens. (edit) See also the Halberds large complement of LRBM's and HNR's.(/edit) ------------------ (url="http://"http://www.geocities.com/shinigami_demon/")Shinigami's Demon: A Gundam Wing Fanfic Archive(/url) (url="http://"http://www.geocities.com/spl_cadet/shipyard.html")BFSIII: Pirate shipyard(/url) US Naval Sea Cadet Corps, Petty Officer 3rd Class.
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Originally posted by spl_cadet: **Who said we had to go near it? A Halberd with it's complement of 75 fighters of fleet commanders choice is incredibly dangerous. In fact one using a complement of 75 fighters would end up doing the equivalent of 600 torpedoes without having to rearm the Lancers. Gunstars would be even worse. It appears to me that you will fear us instead. And thanks for giving me the idea for a new ships. It's gonna waste the aliens. **
Just remember, I'm HC, I just happen to approve of the Alien tech since I invented a good portion of it.
Assuming Shade uses them correctly, you will have to go near it. BTW, 75 lancers is only 225 LRBMs, you know. And Alien Interceptors are plenty fast enough to track down any fighters that can evade Destroyers.
Of course, being HC, we're going to overwhelm you by sheer weight of numbers. You do still have to pay for all this high tech stuff. In the long run, that will hurt you quite a bit.
Speaking of, I need to work out prices for all your new stuff tonight.
Originally posted by Macavenger: **Just remember, I'm HC, I just happen to approve of the Alien tech since I invented a good portion of it.;)
Speaking of, I need to work out prices for all your new stuff tonight. **
My bad. I was going off the original data for the Lancer.
Just the way they did in World War I. As for all this new high tech stuff, would it bother you to point out that we started off with nothing in BFSII and all I did was bring the ships up to date?
And the new prices better be fair. HC stuff has to be expensive as well. And give us a clue as to how you figure out the prices. That way we can have some oversight.