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I registered Coldstone and recieved the code some time last week, but I entered it yesterday. When I went to start a new game or plugin I could not choose where to save the file and had no way to back out of the textbox I was in or quit the program. I had to force quit. Do I need a new code? How would I get that? Or is it just a bug with the program? Any help would be great, thanks!
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That's really odd...can you duplicate those happenings?
Anyway, to answer your question, I believe codes are good for 30 days. Beyond that, you have to contact ASW for a new one (free of charge, of course).
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Well it happened to me twice last night, I don't know what's going on with it. I'll try again today, but I think the results will be the same.
Which version of the CS editor are you using, and what is your current System Software version? If you're using the OSX editor, back away slowly and begin using the Classic editor (or at least until the patch is released). If it's the Classic editor, it might be something conflicting with CarbonLib, or another conflict with the system.
You might as well post your other specs too, RAM, processor & the like. Let us know, and we'll think for a while and hopefully be able to help.
-Andiyar
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All right, We have:
Mac OS 9.0.4 CarbonLib version 1.4 Coldstone 1.0
Our processor runs at 275mhz, and we have 128mb of ram.
We also have a ton of other software crap on this thing and everything loves to conflict, so I need to figure out what is conflicting (I think/hope that is what is going on).
On our super-minimal set we have 488 enabled extensions. We have 135 which are not enabled.
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Originally posted by Shrout1: **All right, We have:
Our processor runs at 275mhz, and we have 128mb of ram.**
OK, there's nothing wrong with that. I'd recommend upgrading to 9.1 as a matter of course, but it shouldn't really affect Coldstone if you don't. The RAM is fine, as the Processor speed. How much RAM is allocated to CS, and is Virtual Memory enabled? Give CS as much RAM as possible as a matter of course, but I don't think that VM will matter that much. Hrm.
**We also have a ton of other software crap on this thing and everything loves to conflict, so I need to figure out what is conflicting (I think/hope that is what is going on).
**
Please tell me that that was a typo, and you don't really have over 600 extensions installed, even if only 500 are active. Please! :eek:
But assuming it's not a typo........ I don't know whether CS will conflict with any of the extensions (I don't know what they are or do, and I don't know exactly how CS plays with the system) but in any case, having that many extensions is definitely not good.
OK, first go into the Extensions Manager and change the set to 'MacOS 9 Base' (I think). Might be a good idea to save your set first, name it something imaginative, such as 'The Totally Suicidal Extension Set' or 'Just Waiting For Trouble'. I'm sure you get the picture. Anyway, reboot with only the base set, and relauch Coldstone. See if you can duplicate any of the aforementioned errors, if you can't then it is almost certain to have been an extension set. If not, it's probably a bug, although one I haven't ever heard of, and believe me, we hear a lot about bugs here.
After that, you know the drill. Keep adding extenstions to the base set in the EM one by one, rebooting after each addition, and then trying to relocate the problems in CS. This will pinpoint the problem (assuming it's system based), and although slow as hell, might be considered better than the alternative.
It might be a good idea to browse the net for a guide to resolving system extension conflicts, there are a few good ones around, and they'd be of much more specific assistance than I can be. Try a search through google, and you're bound to find something useful.
I'm actually amazed that you can have that many extensions and suffer no other ill effects in any other application, or in the system itself. I'd recommend turning off most of them just for that problem, but there are other reasons to turn them off. It would free up a great deal more physical RAM, troubleshooting would be easier, software installation wouldn't need you to check as often for extension conflicts, etc.
Anyway, I hope I've helped somewhat. If you still can't fix the problem, I'd recommend dropping a note to Dee about it, as it might be a new bug. Maybe refer him to this thread, or at least give him your system specs.
And although I know this is morbid curiosity........ what extensions do you have, exactly, and why are the so many?!? :eek:
Well, maybe it was a little bit of an overestimation, I just looked at the info on the Extensions folder, here's a list of my active extensions (Some are folders, some are items within them) :
(I don't think you really need to read all of them, but if you see any that are known trouble makers, please speak up) EPSON Launcher Time Synchronizer Conflict Extension A404PS v2011.115 2 fonts A404PS v2011.115 5 fonts About Apple Guide ActiveX Controls AddressBookLib.ppc Aladdin Transaction Engine AOL Link AOL Link Enhanced AOL Link Scanner Apple CD/DVD Driver Apple Enet DLPI Support Apple Modem Tool Apple Monitor Plugins Apple Photo Access Apple QD3D HW Driver Apple QD3D HW Plug-In Apple Telecom Guide Apple Telecom Modem Application Switcher ATI 3D Accelerator ATI Driver Update ATI Graphics Accelerator ATI MPP Manager ATI Rage 128 3D Accelerator ATI Resource Manager ATI Video Accelerator Audio CD Access Caere Libraries CanonDCLibs CarbonLib Color SW 2500 Configuration Manager Conflict Catcher Reference Contextual Menu Extension DIGITAL IXUS 300 USB DIGITAL IXUS USB DNSPlugin DrawSprocketLib EnetShimLib EOS D30 USB Epson Folder EPSON Monitor3 EPSON USBPrintClass1 EPSON USBPrintClass2 EPSON USBPrintClass3 Express Modem Tool FBC Indexing Scheduler Find Find By Content FireWire Enabler FireWire Support FM Radio Extension FontSync Extension Foreign File Access GeoPort for Power Macintosh GeoPort Serial Driver GeoPort Telecom Adapter GeoPort Telephone Tool Global Guide Files Guide Additions Help With QuickHelp Help With QuickHelp.cnt HID Library High Sierra File Access HTMLRenderingLib InputSprocket CH InputSprocket CH Trackball InputSprocket Contour InputSprocket Extension InputSprocket Gravis InputSprocket Kensington InputSprocket Keyboard InputSprocket MacALLY InputSprocket Microspeed InputSprocket Mouse InputSprocket NoHandsMouse InputSprocket Read Me InputSprocket SideWinder 3D Pro InputSprocket Speech InputSprocket Thrustmaster InputSprocket USB InputSprocketLib Internet Access Internet Config Extension Internet Expert Iomega Driver iREZ Digitizer Enabler iREZ Digitizer Support ISO 9660 File Access IXY DIGITAL 300 USB IXY DIGITAL USB LDAP Client Library LDAPPlugin Location Manager Guide Location Manager Modules Log Extension MacinTalk 2 MacinTalk 3 MacinTalk Pro Macintosh Guide MacLinkPlus for Easy Open Macromedia MacromediaRuntimeLib Microsoft Component Library Microsoft Hyperlink Library Microsoft OLE Automation Microsoft OLE Library Microsoft RPC Runtime Library Microsoft Structured Storage MindVision Modem Scripts MPEG Layer-3 DecoderLib MRJ Libraries MS Font ***** Library (PPC) MS Library Folder Multiprocessing NBP Plugin NetSprocketLib Norton AntiVirus Additions NSL UI Library ODBC ODBC 2.x Bridge PPC ODBC Configuration Manager PPC ODBC Cursor Library PPC ODBC Driver Manager PPC ODBC SQL Server ADSP Netlib PPC ODBC SQL Server Driver PPC ODBC SQL Server Setup PPC ODBC SQL Server TCP Netlib PPC ODBC Trace Library PPC Open Transport Open Transport ASLM Modules OpenGLEngine OpenGLLibrary OpenGLMemory OpenGLRenderer OpenGLRendererATI OpenGLUtility OpenTpt Modem OpenTpt Remote Access OpenTpt Serial Arbitrator OT AutoPush Support PPP Connect Scripts Printer Descriptions Printing Plug-ins PrintingLib QD3DCustomElements QuickDraw 3D QuickDraw 3D IR QuickDraw 3D RAVE QuickDraw 3D Viewer QuickHelp QuickTime Extensions QuickTime FireWire DV Enabler QuickTime FireWire DV Support QuickTime QuickTime MPEG Extension QuickTime Musical Instruments QuickTime PowerPlug QuickTime VR Real RealAudio SC 800 Scripting Additions Serial (Built-in) Serial Tool SerialShimLib Shared Library Manager Shared Library Manager PPC ShareWay IP Personal Bgnd SimpleText Guide SLPPlugin SNMP QTC Agent SOMobjects for Mac OS Sound Manager SoundSprocket Filter SoundSprocketLib Speech Manager Speech Recognition StuffIt Engine StuffIt Engine PowerPlug SX8300P System Monitor Plugins TCPack for AOL Text Encoding Converter Text Preview Text Tool TitleEffects Tool Command Language Type 1 Scaler Type Libraries UDF Volume Access URL Access USB Device Extension USB Graph-Link USB HID Driver USB IntelliMouse USB IntelliMouse Explorer USB IntelliMouse IntelliEye USB Printer Sharing Extension USB Software Locator USB Support USBAppleMonitorModule USBHIDUniversalModule Voice Verification Voices VT102 Tool Whiteboard WinSock Lib XMODEM Tool XTND Power Enabler QuickTime Speed Remote Access Shockwave DPLib IMLLib Xtras CBrowser PPC Xtra Flash Asset PPC Font Asset PPC Font Xtra PPC InetUrl PPC Xtra Multiusr NetFile PPC Xtra NetLingo PPC Xtra Prefs PPC Xtra SWA Decomp PPC Xtra SWA Streaming PPC Xtra TextAsset PPC TextXtra PPC WinSock Lib IE 3.01 Control (PPC) v1.2 AppleShare Folder Caere OCR DevKit Caere OCR Engine CanonCameraCom deImg010 deImg404 pscDcd pscDevUI pscDvlp pscParse psProp EPIJPrDrvLib EPIJVersion.info EPSON Printer Library EPSON Printer Server EPSON Printer Utility EPSON Stylus Profile Option Folder3 Option Folder5 Preference Folder Spool Folder Spool Folder5 Utility Folder Stylus COLOR 800 Library Stylus COLOR 800.template Paper Size Stylus COLOR 800 UT2Stylus COLOR 800 English Stopwords English Substitutions Find by Content Indexing Find by Content Plug-ins StopExts StopTypes Western European Abbreviations Western European Stopwords HTML Text Extractor PDF Japanese Encodings PDF Korean Encodings PDF Text Extractor eSellerateEngine 3Com Impact Analog 14.4 3Com Impact ISDN 56K 3Com Impact ISDN 56K MLPPP 3Com Impact ISDN 64K 3Com Impact ISDN 64K MLPPP Apple Personal Modem Apple/GV 56k AT&T; Dataport 288 AT&T; KeepInTouch Best Data Smart One 28.8/33.6 Dayna CommuniCard 28800 Farallon ISDN PC Card ARA 56K Farallon ISDN PC Card ARA 64K Farallon ISDN PC Card PPP 56K Farallon ISDN PC Card PPP 64K Farallon LAN/Modem PC Card Farallon Netopia 56K Farallon Netopia 56K MLPPP Farallon Netopia 64K Farallon Netopia 64K MLPPP GeoPort/Express Modem GeoPort/Express Modem CNG Global Village 28.8-K56 Global Village Gold/Silver/Merc Global Village Platinum/Gold II Global Village x2 GV flex/V.90 GV x2/V.90 Hayes Accura 288 Hayes Accura 56K Hayes Optima 288 Megahertz CruiseCard 14.4 Megahertz CruiseCard 28.8 Metricom Ricochet Wireless Microcom DeskPorte Fast/288 Microcom QX/4232bis Motorola BitSURFR 56K Motorola BitSURFR 56K MLPPP Motorola BitSURFR 64K Motorola BitSURFR 64K MLPPP Motorola ModemSURFR 28.8 Motorola Power/Lifestyle 28.8 Null Modem 115200 Null Modem 19200 Null Modem 57600 Null Modem 9600 Practical Peripherals V.34 Supra 144 Supra 288/336 Supra 336v+/336e/56e Supra 56 V90 TDK DF2814 Telebit QBlazer U.S. Robotics High Speed US Robotics Universal Zoom ISDN 56K Zoom ISDN 56K MLPPP Zoom ISDN 64K Zoom ISDN 64K MLPPP Zoom V-Series lib MRJ Symantec JITC MRJClasses MRJLib appletviewer.properties awt.properties content-types.properties rmic.properties security serialver.properties java.security JDKClasses.zip MRJClasses.zip QTJava.zip Explorer Library (PPC) v1.2 MS C++ Library (PPC) MS Configuration Lib PPC MS Container Lib (PPC) MS Favorites Library (PPC) MS Import Lib PPC MS Internet Library (PPC) MS JScript (PPC) MS Parser Library (PPC) MS Preferences Library PPC MS Variant Lib (PPC) Apple CPU Plugins Norton AntiVirus Activity Data Norton AntiVirus Library Norton AntiVirus Macro Scan Lib Norton AntiVirus Virus Defs virscan1.dat virscan6.dat Microsoft 3.01 dBASE Driver Microsoft 3.01 FoxProDB Driver Microsoft 3.01 Oracle Driver Microsoft 3.01 Text Driver LaserWriter 12/640 PS LaserWriter 16/600 PS LaserWriter 16/600 PS Fax LaserWriter 16/600 PS-J LaserWriter 4/600 PS LaserWriter 8500 PPD v1.2 LaserWriter Color 12/600 PS LaserWriter Color 12/600 PS-J LaserWriter Color 12/660 PS LaserWriter II NT LaserWriter II NTX LaserWriter II NTX v50.5 LaserWriter II NTX v51.8 LaserWriter II NTX-J v50.5 LaserWriter IIf v2010.113 LaserWriter IIf v2010.130 LaserWriter IIg v2010.113 LaserWriter IIg v2010.130 LaserWriter Personal 320 LaserWriter Personal NT LaserWriter Personal NTR LaserWriter Pro 400 v2011.110 LaserWriter Pro 405 v2011.110 LaserWriter Pro 600 v2010.130 LaserWriter Pro 630 v2010.130 LaserWriter Pro 810 LaserWriter Pro 810f LaserWriter Select 360 LaserWriter Select 360f LaserWriter Select 610 QuickTime Authoring QuickTime Capture QuickTime Channels QuickTime Effects QuickTime Essentials QuickTime Firewire DV QuickTime Image QuickTime Internet Extras QuickTime Java Extras QuickTime Music QuickTime Player Extras QuickTime QD3D QuickTime Streaming QuickTime Streaming Authoring QuickTime Streaming Broadcast QuickTime Streaming Extras QuickTime VR Authoring QuickTime Web Helper g2cln nppl3260.xpt pncrt.dll pngui65.dll pngui66.dll PNMM.LIB prefreg62.dll raclass.zip RealPlayerG2 Plugin PNMM.LIB PNPlayer50.Lib PNui50.Lib RealAudio 14.4 Decoder Lib RealAudio 28.8 Decoder Lib RealAudio Daemon trimmed RealAudio dnet Decoder Lib RealAudio SIPR Decoder Lib RealAudio XTRA RealPlayer Plugin RealVideo (Fractal) RealVideo Codec 1.0 RealVideo Decoder 1.0 swff50.dll swfrend50.lib Dialects Standard OLE Types Standard OLE Types (PowerMac) Standard OLE Types 2 VBA DA OLB (PowerMac) vba de olb (PowerMac) vba en olb (PowerMac) vba end olb (PowerMac) vba es olb (PowerMac) vba fr olb (PowerMac) VBA IT OLB (PowerMac) vba jp olb (PowerMac) VBA NL OLB (PowerMac) VBA NO OLB (PowerMac) vba PTG olb (PowerMac) VBA SV OLB (PowerMac) Agnes Agnes, high quality Albert Bad News Bahh Bells Boing Bruce Bruce, high quality Bubbles Cellos Deranged Fred Good News Hysterical Junior Kathy Pipe Organ Princess Ralph Trinoids Victoria Victoria, high quality Whisper Zarvox
Our computer is ancient, I think it was top of the line in mid '96. So things accumulate. I use conflict catcher to make sets, and it does a good job at finding conflicts.
Sorry this post is SO long.
I just ran Coldstone again. The "cancel" button in the text box prompting you to save works, but you cannot quit the program. I'm not sure if it's supposed to be that way....
Originally posted by Tarnćlion Andiyarus: ** <snip>
Hey Andiyar, check this topic out. (url="http://"http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/webboard/Forum10/HTML/005711.html")Click Me!(/url) You could give them a lot of advice.
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Hmmm....
Originally posted by Shrout1: ** <snip> **
OK, that list of extensions tells me several things about you, some of which may be mutually exclusive. These are:
a) - You have one of every laserwriter printer supported by OS 9 out of the box - You have installed a USB card on a six year old machine (or have a pre-G3 machine with USB...... nah c) - You are a hoarder, who doesn't throw anything away, ever. d) - You don't have the time/energy to clean up your System Folder e) - All/none of the above.
Sorry if any of that was offensive, but that's what that list seems to imply. Now, since I've never even heard of some of those extensions, I'm afraid I can't really tell you which could be causing the problem. At the moment, though, I'm assuming that half of them really aren't necessary, especially the Laserwriter/USB ones. I'm going to guess you have a Color StyleWriter 2500, and maybe an Epson as well.
OK. now my remedy of using only the base system may be a bit difficult, but I'd try it first and then let me know whether it helps. If not, there are a few things to try:
Trash every extension that is not used by an active application on your machine. By this, I mean an app you use at least once a month. If you have extensions there for supporting, say, Bryce, which you might use twice a year, dump them. Back them up first, maybe, but at the moment they're just wasting space.
Clear out all of the printer and gamesprocket extensions you don't use. I seriously doubt you have a dozen laser printers, as well as numerous trackpads and joysticks from at least three different companies.
Now, go through and dump everthing not vital to running the machine. Don't empty the trash if you feel you can't. but move the extensions/control panes/whatever out of your active system. You may be surprised how much snappier your machine feels once you have removed all the nonessentials, with all of the freed up system memory, and less sharing of processor time.
Now, with your nonessentials removed, try to duplicate your problems with CS. If it has dissappeared completely, then you know what the culprit was/is. If you like, you can start to do the one-by-one extension test to see if it helps, but since you've probably fallen in love with your snappier machine, you probably won't want to.
And of course, there are two further options: delete all of Coldstone's files, prefs, apps and guides off your hard drive and do a clean install, and/or do a clean install of your system. That should do it.
Now, if after this you've spent the ten or so hours I've outlined trying to fix it, and it still hangs up on you, it's time to send an email to either Dee or Andrew, listing your problem once more. If it hasn't been fixed by now, I'm afraid it's probably a bug, and is the premise of the CS programmers, not humble me and my kill the system routine.
But of course, you could always wait for the forthcoming patch, and hope. But I'd still do the system tests/fiddling, if not the drastic ones. Who knows, it could be something so simple that I've missed it, but that you find within five minutes of tweaking.
Best of luck Shrout! Let me know how it goes.
(This message has been edited by Tarnćlion Andiyarus (edited 03-30-2002).)
(quote)Originally posted by Celchu: **Hey Andiyar, check this topic out. Click Me! You could give them a lot of advice.;)
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Lol, lol, lol and lol again.
This is my father's machine, not my own. I have only about 40 extensions enabled on mine.
You should see our garage (just kidding - you wouldn't want to). Indeed, we have had 3 joysticks on here, three mice I think (no trackballs), a colorstyle writer printer (though no more) and we currently have an epson. The Laser printer extensions are probably left over from one of the hard drive transfers we've had, that printer is about seven years gone, and I have no idea why we still have those things. This computer needs to be dragged out, shot and buried in a field somewhere.
Now, if I were to simply put these extensions in the "disabled extensions" folder, would that take care of them? I could simply make a bare-bones set using Conflict Catcher.
Oh BTW, do you think that even though I have "Shared Processor" off in EVN, by disabling more of these extensions, would it smooth things out? I'm in desperate need of speed!
(This message has been edited by Shrout1 (edited 03-31-2002).)
Originally posted by Shrout1: **snip! **
Yes, putting them in the disabled exstention folder would cause them to be, well, disabled, and would achieve the same effect as Andiyar's method, with less hassle. Go for it.
Originally posted by Celchu: **Yes, putting them in the disabled exstention folder would cause them to be, well, disabled, and would achieve the same effect as Andiyar's method, with less hassle. Go for it.
Yes, that disables them, and has the same effect of trashing them. Really, moving the extensions out of their proper folder and then rebooting disables them by default. I merely suggested trashing them, as they really don't seem to be necessary.
As for your EVN question, it would free up more RAM, which would be nice for Nova. Also, you could try playing with doubled speed (caps lock) on, I do, even on a G3 400 with 320MB RAM. Or you could try turning off a few graphics options, that'll speed it up for sure.
Back on topic though, has disabling helped any for CS?
Yus, you would be simpleh amazed at the difference in speed when you pare down that extension list.