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hi, this is my first topic in this board cause ppl told me to come here,
ANYWAYS, id like to know what the most non complex plugin developer program there is, and some good guides for begginer developers are, help would be much appreciated, and if u guys know of a guide thats like "PLUGINS for dummies" like all those books, that would be really good, i need as least complex as possible. also, i have no idea what any of the terms that ive seen in the prgrams ive tried mean, so i really need help, thank you
P.S. woh, wierd colours here
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Go to the Nova addons section, get Nova Tools (I think its in utilites...) and one of the various versions of the Nova Bible, the "CE" version is quite good. And there you go, thats all you need! Of course in the Nova addons section there are also numerous other beginner guides and so forth that might be useful too.
You should also read through some of the other posts on this board as many beginners and others post questions like this one on how to do stuff, they too can be useful.
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i had novatools and the novabible ce version, and it was too confusing , it would have been fine if i was already somewhat experiened, but for a beginner with my level of complex understanding(0.000000000000000000000000001), i just couldnt use it, maybe ill get them again later once its possible for me to use them, i would still like suggestions
I would suggest either (url="http://"http://davidarthur.evula.net/mc.php/")MissionComputer(/url) or (url="http://"http://www.ariossoftware.com/programs/evone/")EVONE(/url).
EVONE isn't fully functional yet , but has some handy-dandy features (no help though).
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Hmm.... "Help" with thirteen exclamation points. Must be urgent. It would have been helpful if you had a more descriptive title than just "Help." Maybe: Newbie wants info on development programs" or somehting like that.
I'm sorry, Septcanmat, but NovaTools/ResEdit aided by referencing from the Nova Bible is the current single best/easiest way of making plugins. It's best to start by changing ship or weapon statistics (in the shďp, oütf, and wëap resources) in small plugins to learn how everything works, and then work slowly up to other plugins (in other words, your first plugin should not be a "Total Conversion."). As a request from most Nova players, please don't rush to upload your first plug to the Nova Addons page saying stuff like, "Ch3ck it out! 1hi5 i5 my 1337 plug!" Those tend to clog the Addons page and are generally annoying. My suggestion is to wait until you at least learn how to make new missions, and put them into some sort of a coherant set, or make a set of balanced ships, governments, etc, before you upload.
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Originally posted by Septcanmat: **hi, this is my first topic in this board cause ppl told me to come here,
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While I wouldn't call it "plug-ins for dummies" this guide might be handy for starting off an EVN plug-in.. Just the basics thus far.
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Originally posted by what_is_the_matrix: **Hmm.... "Help" with thirteen exclamation points. Must be urgent. It would have been helpful if you had a more descriptive title than just "Help." Maybe: Newbie wants info on development programs" or somehting like that.
well, i wasnt planning on uploding at first, i was just planning on maybe fooling around with something completely worthless and crappy to start like making the blaster worth like 1000000000 credits, and then move up to adding a new weapon into the game(atually, i have that one planned out already, id post a link to the thread i started for it but i dont know how) and then ui had also planned a little cool fun like 3 mission string to get the new weapon or something, and then when i finally get a plug that im really enjoying that i think is cool and roriginal, id post it. thats all.
P.S. does anyone know a good application for 3d modeling i could download thats free?
Originally posted by Septcanmat: P.S. does anyone know a good application for 3d modeling i could download thats free?
(url="http://"http://www.evula.org/ewan/")Ewan's Lair(/url) has a free version of Strata available. Pov-ray is also free.
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Originally posted by Kame: **Ewan's Lair has a free version of Strata available. Pov-ray is also free.
could u please just post a link that would allow me to download it?
sry if im coming across as rude, but as i said, i have a very low computer understanding, and ii went to ewans lair and tyhen went to strata and had a hard time trying to find where to download, so i gave up
Originally posted by Septcanmat: **could u please just post a link that would allow me to download it?
sry if im coming across as rude, but as i said, i have a very low computer understanding, and ii went to ewans lair and tyhen went to strata and had a hard time trying to find where to download, so i gave up**
At the bottom of the left menu it says "Downloads" Click the link, Strata is listed at the top.
THX, i didnt see that, instead i went to "programs used" and got lost, oh well, thx alot, but still, does anyone know any other non complex plugin developers, and if not, a really good guid that is very simple that gives me deffenissions of all the terms without using more confussing phrases thus making it super confusing?
Originally posted by Septcanmat: THX, i didnt see that, instead i went to "programs used" and got lost, oh well, thx alot, but still, does anyone know any other non complex plugin developers, and if not, a really good guid that is very simple that gives me deffenissions of all the terms without using more confussing phrases thus making it super confusing?
About the only guide you're going to find for plugin making is the EVN bible. _Bomb has a nice little guide to making plugs but nothing technical which is probably what you want more. Plugin development really isn't difficult. There's the completely perplexing problem now and then, but it all just depends on how much time you're willing to spend figuring things out. It can be as simple as cut and paste or else building from scratch. If you're intimidated by the whole idea though, you're not going to get far. You have to get your hands dirty if you want to learn anything.
Originally posted by Septcanmat: **THX, i didnt see that, instead i went to "programs used" and got lost, oh well, thx alot, but still, does anyone know any other non complex plugin developers, and if not, a really good guid that is very simple that gives me deffenissions of all the terms without using more confussing phrases thus making it super confusing?
A good start would be to cut out the AOLspeak. Then try determination.
Let's face it, to learn the kinda complicated stuff you need to make a good plug, you're going to have to put in the hard yards. Just learn NovaTools, it isn't that hard. Also, Strata is a little complicated for first time modelers, and I'd personally recomend mechanisto over it, simply because I started out with that, and its easier to get the hang of. Other people say different though.
Either way the reality is you're going to have to make an effort at some point. There isn't a magic button.
Good luck.
(To find mechanisto just do a google search... I think you can get it somewhere here too)
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(This message has been edited by Azdara (edited 03-21-2003).)
Originally posted by Azdara: **A good start would be to cut out the AOLspeak. Then try determination.
Either way the reality is you're going to have to make an effort at some point. There isn't a magic button. **
Excellent points, all of them!
Seriously, cut the AOL speak... its really annoying and makes your post hard to read without wanting to pull my eyes out Also, check your spelling. Posting isnt a race, and it only takes a few seconds at the end to read through your post and correct any spelling mistakes and grammar errors before pressing Submit. It will make your post so much easier to read and understand, and lets face it, if its easier to understand, its easier for us to help you
Funny thing is, I had the opposite problem to Azdara, I found Mechanisto impossible to understand and picked up Strata's basics really quickly. Due to a lack of tutorials and whatever, I took a while to learn the more advanced features, but there are a lot more out there now, and I will be making some more in the near future
Azdara's last comment was probably the best here, there is no easy way to do this, you just have to start and make mistakes and learn like everyone else did
Good luck ewan
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I suppose having some intuition and talent helps. As well as the drive to look into things.
A friend of mine created a Borg Cube in Mechanisto. He even created a (url="http://"http://www.starblazers.com/home.html")Star Blazer's(/url) Yamato. I haven't had much luck or drive to learn Mechanisto or PovRay, even though they are on my computer.
But I say, take someone else's work and look at it to see how it works.
I have had my Mac for only a year, and I have been using Resedit with Novatools. I have not made any true plugins, but I am working on one for the Polycon TC. (God knows when I will make myself finish it)
One last thing. Mission computer appears to be great, but it doesn't cover all the resources. Until it does, I will keep using Resedit.
Ok, two. Download all the little utilities in the Plugins area. Many of them are very useful.
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sorry, im used too MSN messenger, anyways
i downloaded strata and it wouldnt let me use it unless i put in a cd or registered, i thought u guys said it was free,
also, i would LIKE to get my hands dirty to learn how to make good plugins, and i WANT to put an effort into it, but it would HELP if i just even knew HOW to do even the simplest plug like changing a price of an item, BUT I NEED TO KNOW HOW!!!
another thing, would i be able to look at some of the plugins that ive downloaded with novatools? and if so, how?
Download the resource pack too. I found out you dont need to use the pref files, just use the liscence code thats in the "Strata 3D.lic" file.
ewan
huh? i dont understand what u meant by that
Originally posted by Septcanmat: ** another thing, would i be able to look at some of the plugins that ive downloaded with novatools? and if so, how?
Of course you could. First, install NovaTools if you haven't already, by the instrucions included with it.
Then, open ResEdit and select the file that you have downloaded.
You can also look at the Nova Data files, which helps with trying to understand how to make plugins.
My suggestion is to just open up a COPY of the Nova Data files, and fool around a bit. As long as its a copy, you can't mess anything up permanently. With NovaTools installed, its fairly strightforward to do editing.
Have Fun
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Sorry about not making a new topic but I'm not registered and I figured Help!!!!!!!!!!!, would be a good place to post my problems.I use Resedit and I would like to know how to make the name of my actual govt that will be in the game.How do you make the Resedit file become a plugin?Finally, I would like to know the easiest graphic design tool or if anyone has a good knowledge of star wars tell me where I can get some ship pictures? (star destroyer,x-wing,firespray,calamari cruiser,etc.)Thanks