EV: force fleet to appear as dude

The EV Bible: Annotated Edition by Lord of the Lemmings says that you can force a flet resource to appear as a dude in a system by putting its negative value (160 becomes -160, etc.) into the DudeTypes field, but this doesn't seem to work. Does anyone know how you can do this?

I also tried doing it as its 'order' value, (128 becomes 0, etc.,) but this doesn't work either.

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Never mind. I found an old topic that said that you put the fleet's number in the dude resource itself. Sorry.
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Does the same thing happen in EVN?

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(This message has been edited by Mantaray (edited 09-14-2002).)

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Originally posted by Mantaray:
**Does the same thing happen in EVN?

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Dunno, I haven't gotten EV:N yet.

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Originally posted by Mantaray:
**Does the same thing happen in EVN?

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Yes.

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I tried putting the negative value in the dude resource, but it doesn't work that way, either. How do you do it? Aaaaargh!...

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Originally posted by Entropy:
**I tried putting the negative value in the dude resource, but it doesn't work that way, either. How do you do it? Aaaaargh!...

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Try it in Nova.

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Originally posted by P-Psycho:
**Try it in Nova.

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And again, I haven't gotten Nova yet. I really need this to happen in EV for my plugin.

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I never knew it was possible. But I'm a bit rusty with EV/O at this point. I've been working with Nova exclusively since it got released. Nova is a developer's dream.

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Originally posted by mrxak:
**...I'm a bit rusty with EV/O at this point. I've been working with Nova exclusively since it got released. Nova is a developer's dream.
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Aiiiiiiiiiiiiii! Nobody listens! This is for EV, not EV:O! I don't have enough memory for EV:N, either, and even if I did I wouldn't make plugins for it.

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My trusty copy of the EV Bible: AE says:

One special note: If you want a syst resource's DudeType field to point to a fleet type (see above) instead of a dude type, set its value to the negative of the fleet's resource ID. This will force EV to include that specific fleet type in the system a definite percentage of the time, instead of haphazardly as it normally does. (LOTL says:---->) This is the most reliable way to include a fleet in the universe.

Could it be that you have to set the dude's resource ID itself to be negative?

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Well, putting the negative of a flet resource number in the dude field of a sys works in EVO at any rate. I tried it in EV but it didn't seem to work, perhaps I wasn't paying attention though and entered something incorrectly.

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