Ferazel's Wand won't work on OS X

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Originally posted by Captaintripps:
**I don't think I've said anything of an insulting nature in this thread and will continue to post on occasion here, as I have for the past several years, for the forseeable future.

If you have a problem with that, I suppose you'll just have to swallow it. Or you can complain about it, but I suggest that this would be a largish waste of time

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Pretty much yes, because YES you were looking to make a personal insult. Because you're so determined to defend forge. And I have said that you can post here..I just don't respect you for doing so. You don't play this game...you're not interested in the community..so your comments here are just about being mean spirited. You've not disputed that..and you've also told me that I can't do anything about it. Yeppers..I know that. But it doesn't mean that you have any credibility here. And as far as I'm concerned...no respect or credibility. Don't post here unless you are interested in our community. If you're not..why should we give a flying s*** about anything you have to say?

---Zelda

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STILL a proud member of WIRP.
And I am the WIRP bitch from forge's worst nightmare.
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Bege is right all the time.

Not at all. He doesn't need defending as he doesn't care and if he did he'd do it himself. I just thought it was kind of silly to say something about that when he's not even a member of the community anymore. Sure, it's all in fun, but I think you still hold something against him and he's not even around anymore. I didn't look to make any insult at all.

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Originally posted by Zelda:
Pretty much yes, because YES you were looking to make a personal insult. Because you're so determined to defend forge.

I've posted here off and on for the better part of three years. I don't think there's any harm in that.

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And I have said that you can post here..I just don't respect you for doing so.

I've played Ferazel off and on, but you're right, I don't really play it all that often. I'm sorry you feel that puts me out of the loop, but my participation in this forum is about equal to the amount of time I spend playing the game. I post in many disparate forums (including Ares which I never play at all). If there was a generalized chat forum for Ferazel, I'd be there.

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You don't play this game...you're not interested in the community..so your comments here are just about being mean spirited. You've not disputed that..

I think it's stupid to get up at me for posting here and telling me not to drop by. I darken your doorstep once in a while and I wouldn't even generally consider it "darkening." I've never detracted from anything here. I'm not looking for credibility with a post, I'm just posting.

As far as respect, I know I don't have much from you and don't expect any. It's no big deal, so please don't feel offended if I don't seek it. I'll continue to post here as and when I'm interested in making a post, as I've done in the past. I'm not concerned about your flying ****s over what I say, I'm just going to say it, just as you do. I'm sure you understand.

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and you've also told me that I can't do anything about it. Yeppers..I know that. But it doesn't mean that you have any credibility here. And as far as I'm concerned...no respect or credibility. Don't post here unless you are interested in our community. If you're not..why should we give a flying s*** about anything you have to say?

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Captaintripps: A Modern Millenarian; not expecting the Apocalypse, rather expecting to bring it about.
(url="http://"http://www.danielbesterinc.com")Daniel Bester, Inc.(/url)

(This message has been edited by Captaintripps (edited 03-12-2004).)

Zelda, Captaintripps:

I'm sorry I brought up forge. It was a little inside joke, aimed mainly at myself, not anyone else.
(And as Andrew likes to say - if you have to explain a joke, it isn't funny anymore.)

Now, both of you be nice. FW is the nice forum, remember?

(thus says the non-moderator to the two moderators, and then ducks and runs)

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Official Member of WIRP
(ML: addicted to Chocolate and the other Good Things in life)
"Embrace the geekiness."

Jeez, no one has anything to apologize for. You must realize that whenever Zelda and I interact this happens. It's sort of like shag carpet and shocking your pets.

As per forge, who cares? He doesn't and talking about him is a waste of time.

This would've happened regardless if the topic of conversation had been anything else, so please, don't feel you're responsible in any fashion.

As far as nice, this is the nicest conversation Zelda and I have had in a long time. 🙂

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Originally posted by MonsterLady:
**Zelda, Captaintripps:

I'm sorry I brought up forge. It was a little inside joke, aimed mainly at myself, not anyone else.
(And as Andrew likes to say - if you have to explain a joke, it isn't funny anymore.)

Now, both of you be nice. FW is the nice forum, remember?

(thus says the non-moderator to the two moderators, and then ducks and runs)

**

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Captaintripps: A Modern Millenarian; not expecting the Apocalypse, rather expecting to bring it about.
(url="http://"http://www.danielbesterinc.com")Daniel Bester, Inc.(/url)

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Originally posted by Emperor Ent:
**Wow, that is horrible. Will future versions of Panther fix this problem, since it is clearly not one Ambrosia will address? It's really a shame. I was working on more levels for Extemporaneous, but if the game is being left to die, it seems foolhardy. Alas, so it goes, I suppose.

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Hopefully the new version will fix it, and for those of us who are still running jaguar or 10.1 (Im running Jaguar) Its not a huge problem. It is too bad about Panther and ferazel, its probably the first thing you tried, but try increasing the memory allocation to a ridiculpusly large amount.

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Albert Einstein

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Originally posted by Captaintripps:
**Jeez, no one has anything to apologize for. You must realize that whenever Zelda and I interact this happens. It's sort of like shag carpet and shocking your pets.

As far as nice, this is the nicest conversation Zelda and I have had in a long time. 🙂
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Now I see how it is ...

You're just about ready to declare your love publicly then? 😛

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Official Member of WIRP
(ML: addicted to Chocolate and the other Good Things in life)
"Embrace the geekiness."

Well, I know she likes beer and...well...I like beer.

...

Matrimony must not be far behind.

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Originally posted by MonsterLady:
**Now I see how it is ...

You're just about ready to declare your love publicly then? 😛

**

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Captaintripps: A Modern Millenarian; not expecting the Apocalypse, rather expecting to bring it about.
(url="http://"http://www.danielbesterinc.com")Daniel Bester, Inc.(/url)

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Originally posted by Captaintripps:
**Well, I know she likes beer and...well...I like beer.

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Matrimony must not be far behind.
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:::clasping my hands to my heaving bosom::: Oh yes!! I shall take thee Tripp because of our love of the aformentioned beer!!!

And yeah..ML..don't worry yourself. Tripps and I must argue. It's just what we do.

And Tripps..please feel free to post here. Even though you don't play Ferazel much. I'm sorry...can I say that I'm having my period or some other woman type thing that will make you run away in terror?

I know you post here occasionally. It just would be nice if you posted things about the game besides personal matters. But do what you will. I'll try and put up with it. Except when it annoys me and then I'll bitch at you about it. Like I always do.

---Zelda

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STILL a proud member of WIRP.
And I am the WIRP bitch from forge's worst nightmare.
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Bege is right all the time.

(This message has been edited by Zelda (edited 03-13-2004).)

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Originally posted by Salrillian:
**Hopefully the new version will fix it, and for those of us who are still running jaguar or 10.1 (Im running Jaguar) Its not a huge problem. It is too bad about Panther and ferazel, its probably the first thing you tried, but try increasing the memory allocation to a ridiculpusly large amount.
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Maybe this hint will bring us back on topic.

I brought the recommended memory up to 45000 from 35000.

I then reniced the Classic Environment. This supposedly makes the Classic Environment the most important process running on your computer; it gets priority and more CPU time than the other programs.

To do this, start Classic, open up Activity Monitor, order the list by highest PID, and look for a process named (null) towards the top (it'll be further down if you started Classic earlier). (You can't search or filter the list for it.) If you can't find it, stop classic, then start classic again and look for Classic Startup in Activity Monitor while Classic is starting. The actual Classic Environment should have a process ID (pid) one greater than Classic Startup's pid. The process should be owned by you (your short username), have about 14 threads, and have an exorbitant amount of Virtual Memory (that's the way it is on my computer). Now that you've found out the pid for the Classic Environment (null), open up Terminal and type "sudo renice -20 -p PID" without the quotes, and replacing PID with the process ID for the Classic Environment. You'll need to type in an administrator password.

Now try playing Ferazel's Wand. Unfortunately, it did not have the effect I hoped it would; I noticed a small speed increase, but it was still unplayable on my 400mhz G3. Hopefully this tip will work better for some of you.

After you're done, you may want to type "sudo renice 0 -p PID" into Terminal to bring Classic's priority back to normal. Alternatively, you can quit Classic; next time you launch it, it'll be slow as normal again.

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(This message has been edited by PCheese (edited 03-14-2004).)

Don't worry Zelda. He invades the Ares Boards and make useless posts as well. How else do you think he got such a high post count? 😉

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Sundered Angel ,
The One and Only
Ares Webboard Moderator, and all-around Nice Guy

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Originally posted by Sundered Angel:
**Don't worry Zelda. He invades the Ares Boards and make useless posts as well. How else do you think he got such a high post count?;)

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I think his secret plan is to be the moderator of every dang board that Ambrosia has. He is a power hungry monkey!

---Zelda

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STILL a proud member of WIRP.
And I am the WIRP bitch from forge's worst nightmare.
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Bege is right all the time.

You, of course, leave out the percentage of useless posts which make up the whole corpus of ATT posts. The saturation rate is nearly 100%. I think dude3 posted a link to Google once that might've been useful.

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Originally posted by Sundered Angel:
**Don't worry Zelda. He invades the Ares Boards and make useless posts as well. How else do you think he got such a high post count?;)

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(url="http://"http://www.danielbesterinc.com")Daniel Bester, Inc.(/url)

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Originally posted by Zelda:
He is a power hungry monkey!

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(rarely used sarcasm)Which is worse?(/rarely used sarcasm)

  • The Ferazel's Wand webboards are dead and no one posts in them

  • The Ferazel's Wand webboards are the new grounds for moderator wars

Just wondering, because it seems to me that all the posts actually related to the topic are being lost among all the other stuff; it took me a while to find my previous post here because there was so much irrelevant stuff around it.

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Originally posted by Pikeman:
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I love Pike....nuff said.

---Zelda

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STILL a proud member of WIRP.
And I am the WIRP bitch from forge's worst nightmare.
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Bege is right all the time.

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Originally posted by PCheese:
**(rarely used sarcasm)Which is worse?(/rarely used sarcasm)

  • The Ferazel's Wand webboards are dead and no one posts in them

  • The Ferazel's Wand webboards are the new grounds for moderator wars

Just wondering, because it seems to me that all the posts actually related to the topic are being lost among all the other stuff; it took me a while to find my previous post here because there was so much irrelevant stuff around it.

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PCheese...you have a very good point. I will not accept that the Ferazel boards are dead...but sometimes...people in the community need to express other things. That's what helps build the community. That being said, don't think your contributions to this board are lost or are not important. They so totally are. We need you!! Please keep posting and please keep us focused on the game.

---Zelda

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STILL a proud member of WIRP.
And I am the WIRP bitch from forge's worst nightmare.
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Bege is right all the time.

(This message has been edited by Zelda (edited 03-15-2004).)

Don't worry guys. Keep on track. Zelda and I have worked through our thing. I'd like to help work through Ferazel in OSX problems if I can. There should be a way to do it. Unfortunately it probably won't be a permanent thing.

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Captaintripps: A Modern Millenarian; not expecting the Apocalypse, rather expecting to bring it about.
(url="http://"http://www.danielbesterinc.com")Daniel Bester, Inc.(/url)

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(This message has been edited by LifeKnight (edited 03-22-2004).)

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Originally posted by LifeKnight:
**Although I don't post here, I certainly won't accept that these boards are dead. Also, I oppose moderator arguing here. Go to the damn War Room for that.

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As I posted before, banter is accepted here. Even if it's between two moderators. We don't have to go to the War Room because it had to do with these boards. Interesting how you think you can put us down for that and then go ahead and make your own irrelevant posts As you said, you don't post here. So your comments have just as little revelance as you accuse others for having. Watch it. I'm losing patience. I dislike trolls. This wasn't a moderator power play. It was two people disagreeing. And as Tripps said, we resolved it. Maybe not ideally...but it's pretty much over right now. We don't need you to try and add more fuel to the fire.

----Zelda

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STILL a proud member of WIRP.
And I am the WIRP bitch from forge's worst nightmare.
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Bege is right all the time.

(This message has been edited by Zelda (edited 03-17-2004).)

Good news!

The 10.3.3 update seems to make FW a bit faster in Classic, so try it again after you've updated. I managed to get FW almost playable (barely any skips when running around on land) by doing this:

  • Use Mac OS X 10.3.3

  • Renice the Classic Environment to -20 (see above)

  • Set Graphics Quality to Reduced (I guess you could go line-skipped but I'm not sure it'll boost performance that much, I forgot to try it)

  • Set Effects to Reduced

  • Turn Sound Effects and Music off

  • Uncheck the Allow Background Tasks box

  • Check the Reduce Frame Rate box

  • Unplug USB devices you don't need

  • Set Ferazel's Wand's recommended memory to 45000

  • Quit all applications except Ferazel's Wand (Classic) and the Finder

I was playing a special level with Storm Valley-like rain and lightning, but it was working pretty well on land. That's the key: once you hit the water, the game starts skipping like crazy. It's also like that when there's other effects such as Ferazel getting hit by a shield goblin. Maybe it would work better in simpler levels with less complex backgrounds and effects.

I have a Wacom Tablet plugged into my computer through USB, and when I unplugged it , FW sped up a noticeable amount. Those drivers take waaay too much CPU. Lesson: even hardware will slow down FW, get rid of anything you don't need.

Hopefully these changes will allow you lucky people with fast computers to be able to use Ferazel's Wand through Classic again. I think I'll stick to restarting in Mac OS 9 for now though (I like good-looking graphics).

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