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I'm playing the Talon plug-in. I'm on the mission to Rescue Confederate Cruiser. I have to board U.S.S. Woodworth. However,it won't let me. It says: You can't board this ship. Could David Arthur make a fix? Or could someone give me step-by-step instructions to do a ResEdit hack?
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If you do hack Get permission first or it is pirateing and Cheating at the same time so it is bad if you dont get permission
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Originally posted by Captin' Stardust: **If you do hack Get permission first or it is pirateing and Cheating at the same time so it is bad if you dont get permission
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OK no need to repeat so many times I'll ask David Arthur. Is he on the Nova board now?
Most people don't mind you fiddling in ResEdit with their plugin - as long as you don't steal parts of it or distribute a modded version , I certainly have no problem with people doing that to my plugins.
Also, it is not pirating or cheating - all he would be doing is fixing what may be a bug (although I never saw that bug when I played Talon). David Arthur will, in all likelihood, see this topic soon and he will be able to give a more satisfactory answer.
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Hmm... not sure what could be causing that. The first thing I would suggest is to abort the mission and try again. There aren't any mission bits to prevent you doing this - your legal status may go down, but there are plenty of pirates around Talon space for you to push it back up.
As I'm not sure exactly what is causing this problem at the moment, I can't tell you how to fix it in ResEdit, even if that was necessary (which it probably isn't - this sounds more like an engine weirdness), but just for future reference, it's quite all right for you to modify Talon as much as you want, as long as you don't redistribute modified copies or take my content and use it in your own plug-ins without permission. The same is true of most software.
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Originally posted by David Arthur: **Hmm... not sure what could be causing that. The first thing I would suggest is to abort the mission and try again.
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Hooray! It works! It was probably because I first flied around Confed space (Sol, Tau Ceti...)because I didn't know where it was(I want the system name to be always to told so I don't be confused.)
Here are other smaller errors:
If you hail a Alien Fighter, it says Aliend Fighter. If you hail a Raven, it says Antinoda Raven If you do the Destroy Rebel Fleet mission, you get 70 million credits even if the mission text says you get 7 million.
Fixed a annoying spelling error- first with uppercase
(This message has been edited by General Cade Smart (edited 09-01-2002).)
Yes, some of those are known. Frankly, Talon is such an old project (begun in 1997, first released in 1998) that I'm not planning any significant updates for the plug-in as it stands, although I have thought of doing a special edition when w00tWare releases PortAuthority and the Escape Velocity scenario for EV Nova.
Originally posted by David Arthur: **although I have thought of doing a special edition when w00tWare releases PortAuthority and the Escape Velocity scenario for EV Nova.
That would be sweet! Because the original EV scenario would be released, would that mean you could use original ships? A Corvette in the Nova world would be weird... A Mod E Starbridge (or whatever you thought to use)could be more normal. Last questions:
1. I saw that you could disable Alien Fighters in this plug. Can you also disable Alien Cruiser 2. I had a 75% chance of capturing a Alien Fighter. Still it blew up when I tried, even though I had Raven with crew of 263 to 1. 3. The new intro text says that democracy was restored to Confederation. There was no mention of how, so how can you prove this?
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: That would be sweet! Because the original EV scenario would be released, would that mean you could use original ships? A Corvette in the Nova world would be weird... A Mod E Starbridge (or whatever you thought to use)could be more normal.
Actually, I think "releasing the EV scenario" means as a TC for Nova. There would be the original systems, the original ships, missions, etc. It would not mean that you could use EVC ships in the Nova scenario, unless someone made an EVN plug to do that.
MickyBIs
(Edit)Oh, and if you want a plugin with almost no bugs, check out Pale. I think it's a great plug.(/Edit)
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Originally posted by General Cade Smart: I saw that you could disable Alien Fighters in this plug. Can you also disable Alien Cruiser
No, just the fighters.
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: I had a 75% chance of capturing a Alien Fighter. Still it blew up when I tried, even though I had Raven with crew of 263 to 1.
Well, I guess that falls into the other 25%. You can never be 100% assured of capturing a ship in Escape Velocity. Also, the Alien Fighter has a crew of eight, not one.
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: The new intro text says that democracy was restored to Confederation. There was no mention of how, so how can you prove this?
Well, this is what the text says:
Although a new government has restored democracy to the Confederation, the rebel forces are now too determined to abandon their cause, and the galactic civil war still rages on, with no end is in sight.
Basically, this was an attempt to reconcile the claims made in the original game's intro text with the fact that there is absolutely nothing else in the game to suggest any tyranny on the part of the Confederation. More recently I've decided that the speaker in the original intro text must be biased towards the point of view of a rebellion that began in response the the harsh condition that befell the less prosperous worlds following the war. Expect the special edition to have a much more detailed historical background - I'm thinking multiple versions of the back story, each from a different source.
Originally posted by MickyBIs: Actually, I think "releasing the EV scenario" means as a TC for Nova. There would be the original systems, the original ships, missions, etc. It would not mean that you could use EVC ships in the Nova scenario, unless someone made an EVN plug to do that.
Exactly. Porting the EV scenario refers to taking all the classic scenario elements - ships, weapons, planets, systems, missions, graphics, and so on - and converting them to run in EV Nova's impressive new engine.
Originally posted by MickyBIs: ... Pale. I think it's a great plug.
Agreed.
Originally posted by David Arthur: **Basically, this was an attempt to reconcile the claims made in the original game's intro text with the fact that there is absolutely nothing else in the game to suggest any tyranny on the part of the Confederation. More recently I've decided that the speaker in the original intro text must be biased towards the point of view of a rebellion that began in response the the harsh condition that befell the less prosperous worlds following the war. Expect the special edition to have a much more detailed historical background - I'm thinking multiple versions of the back story, each from a different source.
You ansvered all of my questions! Here's one more question: why do Heavy Rocket Launchers weigh 30 tons? In the standard game they weigh 15 tons. There's nothing more effective in them in Talon.
PS. Which government will they protect in the special edition? I think you have have to create a new government, as Feds have Bureau.
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: **You ansvered all of my questions! Here's one more question: why do Heavy Rocket Launchers weigh 30 tons? In the standard game they weigh 15 tons. There's nothing more effective in them in Talon. **
Uhm, no, in the original scenario they are 30 tons.
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: **PS. Which government will they protect in the special edition? I think you have have to create a new government, as Feds have Bureau. **
He means that he will port the Talon plug as a special edition when there is a plugin for Nova with the Original EV Scenario. It will be the same as the original EV edition, just with more depth - he is not incorporating the Talon government, etc. into Nova's universe.
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: why do Heavy Rocket Launchers weigh 30 tons? In the standard game they weigh 15 tons. There's nothing more effective in them in Talon.
Talon does not modify the heavy rocket launcher in any way. If its mass has changed, the change must have been caused by another plug-in.
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: Which government will they protect in the special edition? I think you have have to create a new government, as Feds have Bureau.
As Mazca said, none of EV Nova's scenario elements - the Federation, the Aurorans, Starbridges, Krypt Pods, or any of that - will be present in the Talon Special Edition. The plug-in will be based on the original Escape Velocity's scenario - the experience should be more or less the same as Talon currently is, except taking advantage of EV Nova's new features as well as further thoughts about the scenario I've had over the past few years. Talon will, as it does now, be in the business of protecting everyone, not just one government.
Originally posted by David Arthur: **As Mazca said, none of EV Nova's scenario elements - the Federation, the Aurorans, Starbridges, Krypt Pods, or any of that - will be present in the Talon Special Edition. The plug-in will be based on the original Escape Velocity's scenario - the experience should be more or less the same as Talon currently is, except taking advantage of EV Nova's new features as well as further thoughts about the scenario I've had over the past few years. Talon will, as it does now, be in the business of protecting everyone, not just one government.
Thanks for clearing it up. No Nova governments, no Nova ships... just Novas new features and your thoughts. And I thought they protected only civilians and Confeds, now I'm corrected. Four more questions, and I promise I will stop asking.
1. What are the stats for Rebel Firefox and Stellar Defense Boat? 2. Which thoughts did you have? could you tell some? 3. What does it mean when Cap'n Hector has 200% ShieldMod in the plug? 4. What does Talon Command planet description of Confeds severely streched navy mean?
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: What are the stats for Rebel Firefox and Stellar Defense Boat?
Something like this... Confederation SD Boat 75 shields / 5 armour / 20 shield recharge Accel. 400 / Speed 200 / Turn 3 2 tons cargo / 5 tons free space / 3 jumps range Maximum 2 fixed guns, 2 turrets 1 neutron turret, 2 heavy rockets with launcher, 3 torpedoes with launcher, 3 missiles with launcher Crew 5 / Mass 20 tons / Length 18 m Costs 1.8M credits
Rebel Firefox 35 shields / no armour / 9 shield recharge Accel. 900 / Speed 500 / Turn 4 3 tons cargo / 5 tons free space / 3 jumps range Maximum 2 fixed guns, no turrets 3 swivel electron cannons, 1 heavy rocket with launcher, 5 torpedoes with launcher Crew 2 / Mass 15 tons / Length 11 m Costs 360,000 credits
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: Which thoughts did you have? could you tell some?
Nothing specific, I've just put a fair bit of thought into the political structure of the Escape Velocity universe.
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: What does it mean when Cap'n Hector has 200% ShieldMod in the plug?
Very little.
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: What does Talon Command planet description of Confeds severely streched navy mean?
Before the rebellion started, Confederation ships spent all their time hunting pirates, helping out stranded traders, and generally acting like a police force. After the rebellion started, the Confederation navy's ships were devoted primarily towards fighting off rebels, and so there was nobody left to hunt pirates and help out stranded traders, which is why Talon was formed.
Last note before thread dies: Proximity Mines look like bananas. That, and 15 replies is quite good for a first thread.
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: Proximity Mines look like bananas.
Yes, they do. The graphic I used is a modified version of a sprite created by BrainGlow Software, who called it the Banana Bomb. Until I got replacement graphics, I used BrainGlow's Banana Bomber graphics for the Talon Bomber.
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