BFS III Discussion topic # 2

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Originally posted by BariSaxGuy5:
**Skyblade, the problem with a rebel-confed war is that nobody will want to be a confed:p
Not to mention the fact that we would know ahead of time that the rebels (more or less) win until the aliens show up. Oh well, I'm sure it'll be fun 🙂

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Believe me, if we can get David Arthur in with the Confeds, he'll be hard enough as it is. 😛

Azdara and Jimbob: Sure, you guys can join the Rebels.

Mac: No problem. I made the mistake of putting two systems with the same name into the BFS II map. 😉

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Skyblade, can I go ahead and set up a rebel fleet for myself in your webstory, since it appears that you have one set up? If so, how many credits can i make my fleet worth and do I get to pick its position?

Also, I don't think you should be allowed to jump to a system, capture it, and jump again, like you did when capturing what used to be vork, then returning to stornik. After all, you would have to land on the planet to capture it and fight the defense fleet. Essentially, it would be a battle, and you can't jump into another person's fleet, fight it, and run away all in one post.

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(This message has been edited by Kylethekender545 (edited 01-05-2002).)

Skyblade, can I make my fleet for the EV Webstory? What are the rules for fleet building?

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For now, I'm only allowing players to register for the webstory. I'm still tied up with many projects right now, so I can't fully devote my attention to the EV Webstory until BFS III is complete. As for rules and such, those will be discussed at the proper time...

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**For now, I'm only allowing players to register for the webstory. I'm still tied up with many projects right now, so I can't fully devote my attention to the EV Webstory until BFS III is complete. As for rules and such, those will be discussed at the proper time...

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Bummer it all.... Well, back to BFS III, the quicker I help kill the Alien scum, the quicker I can get a fleet of the EV Webstory! 🙂

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Skyblade, your presence is needed in BFS. Our fleets are under heavy attack. I did what I could. Your Carrier is gone. I await your commands. Please post. End of message.

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Grundy, I don't think that you can call up defense fleets to become your fleet, you can only use a defense fleet if you are in a system that the fleet is defending, and the defense fleet can aid you in the battle. The defense fleets have to stay at their planets, I would guess. So, I believe that your last post is voided.

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Good idea, but Azdara is right on this one. It's also leave a lot of Alien systems open. Now if Skyblade would get over here...

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Jimbob! The 36th and 101st need backup in Rhansard URGENTLY!!!! Please assist.

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I'm hesitant, but alright.

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Unfortunately, much as I would obviously like to see the Alien fleets crushed, I have to pretty much void Jimbob's post too. Stornick is 5 Jumps from Sten - 1 Jump out of range per post. I'll put you in Rhansard if you'd like Jim, then you can move in when an enemy posts. Also, Azdara, remember that you can call up the defense fleet, if you didn't - I didn't read it quite that carefully.

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fixed it.

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Ace, I'd like to remind you that lots of your ships were heavily damaged as well and grundy still had plenty of fighters.

Stats before:

Counsul grunadulater, 15th:
1 Carrier (heavily damaged)
3 Heavy cruisers (all heavily damaged)
2 Destroyers (2 heavily damaged) (1 lost)
7 Gunboats (3 moderately damaged) (3 lost)
9 Heavy fighters (all light-moderate damaged) (3 lost)
12 interceptors (5 lightly damaged, 4 moderately, 2 heavily) (5 lost)

Azdara Ace's Fleet
(1 Titan Battle Cruisers lost)
1 Athena Battlegunship (moderate damage)
2 Odysseus Cruisers (1 lightly damaged, 1 heavily damaged) (1 lost)
13 Thunderclap Destroyers (7 lightly damaged, 4 heavily damaged) (4 lost)
1 Hawk Gunship (2 lost)
13 Lynx Heavy Fighters (6 lost)
20 Slicer Medium Fighters (6 lightly damaged, 9 heavily damaged) (15 lost)
7 Cricket Interceptors (all moderately damaged) (13 lost)

Stats after:

Counsul grunadulater, 15th:
1 escape pod(Consul inside)

Azdara Ace's Fleet
1 Athena Battlegunship (heavy damage)
2 Odysseus Cruisers (1 lightly damaged, 1 heavily damaged)
10 Thunderclap Destroyers (7 lightly damaged, 1 heavily damaged)
13 Lynx Heavy Fighters
15 Slicer Medium Fighters (all moderately damaged)
2 Cricket Interceptors (all moderately damaged)

Presumably, you annilhated his entire fleet. I'm sure you know that all the alien fighters are vastly superior to yours and almost to par with each of your destroyers. Since both sides were damged greatly, i think you should lose a lot more and grundy should get some ships back. Once again take a look at the stats. 7 gunboats, which are equal to your thunderclaps, the carrier and heavy cruisers and destroyers still had firepower remaining, and the 21 fighters are vastly superior to yours. Your total losses were 3 destroyers, 5 slicers, and 5 crickets. Other than the fact that it takes around 5 crickets to match up to 1 interceptor, grundy lost all of his fighters.

Also, understand that my ships are still greatly engaged to yours, so you definitely would take more losses. You can't just engage one fleet while ignoring another. You definitely would not have killed his fleet with those pathetic losses. He had a good deal of ships left you know, I tried to make it as fair as possible in terms of losses in my post. Azdara, please edit your stats to be more fair as well.

Also, using an explosion as a cover wouldn't have prevented scanners from picking your ships up, far less grundy's fighters who were flying around anyway. The main points here are that I was heavily engaged to your fleet and you left that out of consideration and that grundy had plenty of ships left to fire back.

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(This message has been edited by Kylethekender545 (edited 01-06-2002).)

Hey Mac, since I'm emperor, doesn't that automatically make me a mod for bfs? I do try to be fair you know.

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No. Mac and Skyblade are mods and it is sheer coincidence that they are both presidents of races.

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Heh, that's what I thought

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Originally posted by Kylethekender545:
**Hey Mac, since I'm emperor, doesn't that automatically make me a mod for bfs? I do try to be fair you know.

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Yes. The different leaders are mods.
Speaking of that, Mac or Skyblade, should I just take over for Asriel now since he hasn't shown up in a while?

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It says in the rules that the leaders of all the major goverments are mods, I would assume that the Aliens are still a mojor government. As for Azdara's losses, I am also confused at how he can engage only Gruny's fleet and ignore Kyle's. On another note, does he expect all of Grundy's ships to be tatally oblivious to the possibility of attack? It sure sounded like, from what he posted that the Aliens (who had initiated the entire battle) didnt even know what was going on.

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Okay, first of all, Dreden fighters aren't that bad compared to Alien Fighters, and I outnumbered him. Second of all, what on eart were you thinking when you took out a Liberty and 2 Titans in two posts????? If my post is unfair, than yours is ludicris. You took those ships so lightly, as if it was no problem to kill them. I think that my post was realistic and fair, considering the damage you two inflicted in two posts. In your posts, you made it seem like we were two stupid commanders, and much of the damge that you inflicted was because you made us do stupid things.

I don't feel that my post should be changed, unless you are willing to change yours.

I should have factored in your fleet, yes, but if I did you would also experience losses. Also, where was Grundy before he attacked? If he was where the map said he was, he wouldn't have been able to make the jump to Stornik.

Dreden ships are basically as powerful as Alien ships, so don't treat them like scummy human ships.

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On a further note, I have done some comparisons of the Cricket and Interceptor, and the Cricket outguns the Interceptor. In my post, my fighters fired first, therefore, Grundy takes the heavy losses. It all depends on who's posting. If you had posted, you would have fired first too, which was exactly what happened in your first post. Your argument doesn't have a leg to stand on.

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