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Will we be able to use money for other puposes, CoughBriberyCough? Will the map be updated throught the story?
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Originally posted by Cyber-Dragon: And Skyblade: If you're afraid of the old Lyra, then check out this thread. Mac, I was defending you, so you might wanna take a look as well. Does anybody mod those FAQ's? Cuz if they do, /me is dead for sure...
Actually, the post with the flame was a guy defending me also. That thread was mostly cleaned out a while ago, but interestingly, a couple of posts were left behind. The choice to leave that post with the huge flame quoted has long intrigued me. The idiot who posted that was quite thoroughly denounced by at least three people before his post got nuked with most of the rest of it. I don't think the FAQs are moderated very much, just cleaned every now and then.
As for my seriousness, part of that is my debate instincts rising at places, and part of it is the "text on the screen" thing taking all the humanity out of my posts. In real life, I'm an insane nerd... I'm still a nerd here, of course, but some of the insanity is left behind.
JB- I think I already answered that, the ships just have to meet.
Moose - I don't see why it couldn't be used to bribe governments, but you'll have to get them to accept it. The map will be updated as often as I can.
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Originally posted by Kaptain Karl: Asriel, as our Leader, can ally us with whomever he sees fit.
Originally posted by SilverDragon: ...this happened in Golden Horizon too, with the Renegade Alliance, and with some other things. To note, "pirates always lose" isn't exactly true. In fact, it most definately isn't.
Well, KK and Esponer have seen the light of reason. Guys, all of you have to quiet down about this impending alliance. Me and RC are working it out. Actually, comparing us with GH's Renegade Alliance is a pretty good comparison, Esponer. That's basically what we are: former pirate anarchists who now have an organized government.
/me also thinks of the Renegade Legion in Reign of Chaos, although they really are pirates...
------------------ "Life's a bitch, but she's my bitch." -- Phoenix
Originally posted by Lord Asriel: Me and RC are working it out.
How? Answer those questions I posted well, and I'll go for it.
Mr. Moose is very stressed on preparing for BfS III (t2, JC) plus lots of school work. :frown:
/hopes it starts soon so I don't have to worry.
Originally posted by Macavenger: How? Answer those questions I posted well, and I'll go for it.
Don't think you're going to fool me into telling you something confidential.
Originally posted by Macavenger: **How? Answer those questions I posted well, and I'll go for it. **
Mac, can you please repost those quetions I can't seem to find them.
CD: Alright, after I post this I will install SC and get an Bnet account.
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<Sigh...> Here goes:
...Macavenger: You're missing the point. Sure, you may know the Aliens, but do they know you? Not necessarily.
Don't be "thick," Mac. By the very same logic of us knowing them ... they know us. In II, when we studied HC computer files (I think it was when KK captured Yemuro) my fleet discovered -- and transmitted to the other pirates -- the existence of the HC's Alien hostilities and suggested we take advantage of the HC "distraction". Throughout EV -- and especially in II -- humans have marvelled at the "advanced" Alien tech. Of course such an advanced culture could do the same snooping with the HC systems they captured. This represents an obvious "plot possibility" for either the Pirates to attempt to contact Aliens or vica versa. The opening is big enough to fly that Dreden "Big Momma" ship through it! (Skyblade, please notice I finally got the right government with that last phrase.)
All the Aliens remember about the pirates is that there was a fleet involved at Levo, using somewhat different technology, which got its arse kicked by rebel council's fleet.
See above. (And "Ouch!" to that last shot.) :frown:
How do they know that you are in fact a separate government? How would they have contacted you since then?
Also in II ... My fleet broadcast an unscrambled message to the Pirates about plans we found in a captured system's computer. (Our scrambler was broken.) Some pimply faced twelve year old on Barnard could have intercepted that comm!!! Is it not conceivable that such an "advanced culture" as the Aliens could have too???? OF COURSE IT IS! That single comm alone showed them the pirates were organized / opposed to the HC (and therefore, "potential" allies to the Aliens) / and (somewhat) successful against the HC. As for the "how contact?" part, seems to me there was plenty of "contact" in the Battle of Levo...! GEEZ!!! (Keep reading...)
Why would they in the first place, when your first encounter was decidedly hostile...?
Again, there is plenty of "plot potential" here. Yes, they were "hostile" while they were blasting away in Levo. (I concede that the pirates may not have been perceived as being very ... powerful ... but we were still "hostile" at Levo.) The possiblity already has been demonstrated that the Aliens know we could be effective against the HC. What's to prevent Levo from having been a "first hand probing" of how good the Aliens thought the Pirates were? What they witnessed was WARRIORS, WITH THE HEARTS OF LIONS fighting the vastly superior numbers and technology of the HC (and Aliens). (Flashback to an Alien "hermit crab thingy" leader rubbing his tri-mandible (or whatever) thinking, "Hmmm. I wonder how those funny-looking human "Pirate" things would manage with somewhat better tech? If they're that good with such out-dated equipment, we should 'keep one of our eye-stalks' on them in the future. Just in case....") (Gosh! I'm really good at this. I should get involved in a webstory someplace....)
...and they likely don't recognize you as a separate government?
Already SMASHED that point...
If you can satisfactorily answer those questions, I'll consider this more.
Done! Ta-da!!! "Game, Set and Match to KK" (Elvis Voice)Thank you very much.(/Elvis Voice)
Originally posted by Macavenger: The only way I intend to "rig" it so that the Pirates lose is with my superior weapons technology and tactical skill. Will that work for you?
Yes. That will work. So just lose the condescending attitude. Thanks. (I mean here on the Discussion thread. You can be as condescending as you want in the story ... at your peril! Arrgh! Arrgh! ARRGH!!! (Did I scare ya?)
<Edit>I was right to get out of MIS. I can't even keep these simple "()" and "(/)" codes straight!</Edit>
- KK
------------------ Courage stands halfway between cowardice and rashness, one of which is a lack, the other an excess of courage." ... Plutarch
(This message has been edited by Kaptain Karl (edited 11-28-2001).)
Alrighty then! I got the account, I'm now "RC-BFSIII" (it's a code name :D). CD now post a time that would be good for you.
Mac........... I was sit'n on the can last night (about 12ish) and this struck me:
In the official rules it says that the fleet can be broken apart inside a system but can one part of the fleet leave, leaving the other part in an inhabited system joining the planets defence fleet?
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(This message has been edited by rebel council (edited 11-28-2001).)
Sup all,
Ok 2 things 1. Who care what we do. It is none of the HC dam bisness(sp?) 2. Mabe we arnt going to do anything like that and we are just bugging you all (NOT I think?!?) 3.Opps I ment 2 1/2 hehe 2 3/4. Get lost and stick your head in the can (Swirlly ye ha)
Ok just ingnore me to much coffe not enough sleep... To much to do not enough time
<Evil Voice>Arrgh! Arrgh!Arrgh! Arrgh!Arrgh! Arrgh!Arrgh! Arrgh!Arrgh!</Evil Voice> Hohahaha. i mean ARRGH!
Whatever... As I sayed above...
Jager.
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Originally posted by rebel council: In the official rules it says that the fleet can be broken apart inside a system but can one part of the fleet leave, leaving the other part in an inhabited system joining the planets defence fleet?
That rule is outdated, and needs to be revised. Splitting a fleet across multiple systems will be allowed, on a limited basis.
Originally posted by rebel council: Also, mac or skyblade, can you sent (email) me the texture you used for the alien ships?
Done. Afraid it's a bit big, but I think you'll be able to handle it ok.
KK - Highly persuasive argument. If you can give me some idea how the Pirates and Aliens would be talking to each other now, separated by galaxies and all, I'll drop all objections. (I am thinking detail here... )
Also, we have good news for the map - It now works correctly in both IE and Netscape, in every version I've tried! Sadly, it seems OmniWeb and iCab don't like my new coding system, and they don't work as well as before, but everyone has either Netscape or IE, right? it also works with a couple fewer files (probably won't notice much difference in loading time, but maybe a bit), is more accurate, and will be easier to update in the future. /me w00ts
I still can't fix the ugly green link boxes around all the fleets in Netscape, but at least they're in the right places.
I don't think I'll mind the Alliance between the two as long as they have some sort of realistic way of transmitting technology or information, and/or diplomats across the galaxies.
And Mac, about the deal, perhaps it should have an official time? Otherwise its a bit hard.
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Originally posted by Macavenger: ...KK - Highly persuasive argument. If you can give me some idea how the Pirates and Aliens would be talking to each other now, separated by galaxies and all, I'll drop all objections.
Now? Well, uh.... Since the story has not even started, I have no idea how the two sides could be talking to each other.
Just like since the story has not started yet, the Dreden has not made themselves known to the HC. And of course you and Skyblade being honorable men ... you have not already been talking / scheming.
As I indicated in my argument, all we seem to have is plot possibilities. It remains to be seen if those possibilities occur. (IMPERIOUS VOICE) And I better not see any more posts (Cadet, Cyber-Dragon, Asriel, Rebel Council) speculating about this hypothetically discussed "alliance"!(/IMPERIOUS VOICE)
Where'd that voice come from????
AHHH! Mac, you screwed up the map! Before, all the fleets were hovering slightly above their designated places, now, they're all at the bottom. No wOOt! Change back! (I'm on Netscape 4.7, BTW)
RC, I'm free anytime tonight, up untill about 10:00. Then I have to do my DW. That's pretty much the same everyday, as I don;t get time to post untill about 6. Sometimes earlier, 3 at the least. And mornings are- well, lets not even go there.
Originally posted by Cyber-Dragon: AHHH! Mac, you screwed up the map! Before, all the fleets were hovering slightly above their designated places, now, they're all at the bottom. No wOOt! Change back! (I'm on Netscape 4.7, BTW)
It works ~perfectly~ for me on every version of Netscape 4.7 I've been able to find. Do you have the latest version (4.77)? If so, try reinstalling it perhaps?
Yep good everyone ingnores me... All the fleets are in there right place.. Of corse I'm using IE 5.1 in OS X.1... Whatever time to bug people. YE HA LOVE MY JOB...
Jager
Oh, it works ~perfectly~ all right, but all the fleets are lined up at the bottom like a bunch of friggin ducklings.
BTW, you still haven't changed my flagship(s)
Originally posted by Cyber-Dragon: **Oh, it works ~perfectly~ all right, but all the fleets are lined up at the bottom like a bunch of friggin ducklings.
BTW, you still haven't changed my flagship(s)**
Ok, try this. Go to Netscape's Preferences (Edit menu), scroll down and click on advanced, find the little box that says "Enable Style Sheets" and check it. Then try the page again. I bet it works better.
Which ship did you want for your flagship again?
I need a new life. Who wants to make me an EV plug... Using the ships in the webstory, Only one system. Just want to blow stuff up, That means the planet would have to have outfit/shipyard/doesn't get pissed at ya.... All ships/weps are avable...
Ok then.
jager
How much you got?
Well, I could whip up something real quick, but seeing as there are so many other (url="http://"http://www.ambrosiasw.com./cgi-bin/vftp/show.pl?product=ev&category;=cheats&display;=date&page;=1")Cheat(/url) (url="http://"http://www.ambrosiasw.com./games/ev/addons.html")Add-ons(/url) out there, especially ones tht give you the so called (url="http://"http://www.ambrosiasw.com/cgi-bin/vftp/dl-redirect.pl?path=ev/cheats&file;=Arcrania.sit.hqx")"Masochist Planets"(/url) you described, I'd rather just give you a link or two. Or three.