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Originally posted by ares1: Gunboats arent that bad, are they? I find them a pain in the @$$ when flying for the Rebels. Those heavy rockets get on my nerves... and their sheilds are, I believe, fairly higher than those of the patrol ship, so I cannot knock them out with one torpedo. I have lost my already damaged kestrel to confed gunboats on several occasions. I think it deserves some credit, Macavenger.:)
As an AI ship, it performs worse against other fighters than a Patrol Ship (I'm thinking mainly Manta vs. Confed fighter duels here). I find them no more of a nuisance than Patrol ships, or possibly less so, when attacking me, as the Missiles are easy to dodge, the Heavy Rockets aren't too hard to shake either (plus it seldom aims them correctly in the first place), and its Lasers do far less than the Patrol Ship's Cannons. For a player flying it, it's much too slow for the amount of shields it has. On an overall list of ships in EV I would least like to have, the Gunboat would be about fourth or fifth. That includes all ships like Shuttles and Light Freighters, mind you.
BTW, the reason you think their shielding is higher is because they have 5 armor. That's why they can be disabled, as the Patrol Ship can't.
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Rapier.
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If it had better graphics,my vote would go to the Lightning.Right now it just looks ugly,tho.
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Current stats:
Lightning - 7 votes Rapier - 3 votes Hawk - 1 vote Gunboat - 0 votes Patrol Ship - 0 votes Manta - 1 vote Defender - 0 votes
12 total votes.
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Originally posted by Macavenger: **As an AI ship, it performs worse against other fighters than a Patrol Ship (I'm thinking mainly Manta vs. Confed fighter duels here). I find them no more of a nuisance than Patrol ships, or possibly less so, when attacking me, as the Missiles are easy to dodge, the Heavy Rockets aren't too hard to shake either (plus it seldom aims them correctly in the first place), and its Lasers do far less than the Patrol Ship's Cannons. For a player flying it, it's much too slow for the amount of shields it has. On an overall list of ships in EV I would least like to have, the Gunboat would be about fourth or fifth. That includes all ships like Shuttles and Light Freighters, mind you.
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Actually it performs far better than you make it out to. I have yet to see a Manta survive against one except by firing off a bunch of missiles from long range. Usually one about one actually hits and they go into close combat. And as the heavy rockets tend to smash Manta's rather easily...
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Originally posted by spl_cadet: **Actually it performs far better than you make it out to. I have yet to see a Manta survive against one except by firing off a bunch of missiles from long range. Usually one about one actually hits and they go into close combat. And as the heavy rockets tend to smash Manta's rather easily...
My point is that the Manta actually does survive against it from time to time, as the Gunboat turns too slowly to get its Missiles off as quickly as the Manta does. I have never seen a Manta vs. Patrol Ship duel end in anything but a draw, except in 1.0.4 where the Manta only had 1 Missile and was clearly an inferior fighter.
I've always thought that the Confed Gunboat looks cool.
Besides, nobody has voted for either Confed fighter. they're getting sort of lonely. :frown: God bless,
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Hmmmm......The defender and the manta are the funnest ships to fly out of all of these...I think I'll put my vote with the Defender, which is really a very faithful ship if you use it right. I've gone straight from a defender to a kestrel once, and killing argosies in a defender is really easy.
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Uh...Mac? I' ve seen plenty of Manta/Patrol Ship fights (1 on 1) where one of the fighters wins. That said, it's usually the Manta that wins: it's faster, and has swivel cannons. The Patrol Ship usually can't get it's guns fired on the Manta.
My vote, however, goes to the Rapier. Deadly if you fly a slow capital ship.
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Lightning - 7 votes Rapier - 4 votes Hawk - 1 vote Gunboat - 1 vote Manta - 1 vote Defender - 1 vote Patrol Ship - 0 votes
15 total votes.
I think I'd go for the lightning, because of reasons stated above. then the rapier, then manta.
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Originally posted by Lord Asriel: Uh...Mac? I' ve seen plenty of Manta/Patrol Ship fights (1 on 1) where one of the fighters wins. That said, it's usually the Manta that wins: it's faster, and has swivel cannons. The Patrol Ship usually can't get it's guns fired on the Manta.
Hmm... did they both start fresh, with a full load of ammo? In my experience, the turning differential between the two isn't enough in an AI vs. AI battle to influence the outcome. Or maybe you were in an asteroid field and they were fighting on your screen, causing some Missiles to miss?
Lightning - 8 votes Rapier - 4 votes Hawk - 1 vote Gunboat - 1 vote Manta - 1 vote Defender - 1 vote Patrol Ship - 0 votes
16 total votes.
Rapier. It can take out anything in the game and still haul a good amount of cargo.
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Definitly the Rapier. Really, if I'm flying something as slow as a gunboat, I want it to be powerful.
The Lightning just doesn't appeal to me. Not enough shields/armor.
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Lightning - 9 votes Rapier - 6 votes Hawk - 1 vote Gunboat - 1 vote Manta - 1 vote Defender - 1 vote Patrol Ship - 0 votes
Mine goes to the Lightning, as you know, Captain Skyblade. <smiles> Go root out my topic (s) on it to see why!
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My vote goes to the Confederation Patrol Ship, just to mix it all up a bit.
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Lightning - 9 votes(/b) Rapier - 6 votes Hawk - 1 vote Gunboat - 1 vote Manta - 1 vote Defender - 1 vote Patrol Ship - 1 vote
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1. Hawk 2. Lightning 3. Patrol Ship 4. Manta 5. Rapier 6. Gunboat 7. Defender (blech)
Note that the Hawk wins for aesthetic reasons.
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Lightning - 9 votes(/b) Rapier - 6 votes Hawk - 2 votes Gunboat - 1 vote Manta - 1 vote Defender - 1 vote Patrol Ship - 1 vote
21 total votes