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How many of you actually use space bombs? I have yet to use them seriously with an EV pilot, and I've been playing since it's early days. They just seemed best suited for a fighter, and a fighter doesn't have enough room for space bombs (and other outfits I find more important.) Let's hear everyone else's opinion.
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Welcome to the boards! I have only used them once, but I was just messing around. Just chuckin' them at asteroids, gettin' myself blown up. Fun stuff like that. But I've heard you can set them on top of a planet by staying still over it, then releasing the bomb. Then you demand tribute, and watch the space dust fly! Warning: Do not try on Earth or Stardock Alpha. The ships will not be blown up, plus there will be many, many more to follow.
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They're also good if you want to kill Cap'n Hector.
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Doh! I didn't even notice the other topic concerning space bombs that had been around longer. :eek:
There is a topic discussing the use of space bombs already, but the space bombs are useful against capital ships eg. the Confed Cruiser because its so slow and can hardly manouvre fast...
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or you can blow asteroids up with it. I haven't tried yet, but I heard it works.
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my opinion is that space bombs suck!! hehe yes, you can use it over a planet but you only destroy the first wave and there will come more ships... anyways you will probaly end up blowing yourself up hehe
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Space bombs tend to be one of my main weapons in EV, torpedoes being the other. I find that they're great for demanding tribute (just leave three or four above the planet, then demand tribute), destroying larger ships (head in the right direction, let a few fly, then reverse course), destroying tailing fighters (just slow down a bit, let them drop, then speed back up), or for destroying asteroids (in earlier versions).
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I hate em.
They're slow, take up much space, and kill you a lot.
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Originally posted by General Rak: **I hate em.
They're slow, take up much space, and kill you a lot. **
I find myself in total agreement with General Rak.
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1: They go as fast as your ship when dropped. They only go slow if you go slow, so I take it you don't go very fast.
2: They take up space. Everything takes up space. Given the amount of damage they do they don't take up much space at all. For reference, they have the same damage ratings as the forklift does.
3: They kill you a lot. I guess you just need some practice playing EV.
Originally posted by forge: 1: They go as fast as your ship when dropped. They only go slow if you go slow, so I take it you don't go very fast.
They only ships that can really afford the space for them go slowly
Originally posted by forge: 2: They take up space. Everything takes up space. Given the amount of damage they do they don't take up much space at all. For reference, they have the same damage ratings as the forklift does.
They take up two tons of space each. The two launchers total 60 tons.
Therefore, a properly equipped space bomb vessel needs at least a 300 speed rating (to clear the blast in time). Plus it needs (suggested amount of bombs = 15) 90 tons of space to be effective. That's on top of the other stuff you equip your ship with.
You are wrong about the damage rates- Forklift- 1250 to both armour and shields (res-edit scale) Space Bombs do 937 to both armour and shields (res-edit scale)
As well, Javelins are the second most efficient legal secondary
For 5 tonnes, you get 14985 shield damage and 2997 armour damage... a total of 17982 damage
3 space bombs give you 5622 total damage, and you should only be able to 2.5 for that cost. Don't forget to add in the 30 tonnes of launcher...
Originally posted by forge: **3: They kill you a lot. I guess you just need some practice playing EV. **
I see you aren't very efficient, are you?
1: Nope, that's just plain wrong. As an example, outfit a Kestrel with space bombs and all the three thrust/speed/turning enhancements. It's not a slow ship by any means. Corvettes are also quite capable of using space bombs.
2: In the EV 1.0.5 data files the damage for Forklits are 1000/1000. For space bombs they are 750/750. In EV 1.0.1 the damage for both of them are 1000/1000. Guess which one I use.
3: On the contrary, I prefer to use neutron cannons and proton turrets rather than missiles and bombs. My main uses for space bombs are for softening up heavy capital ships and for taking out the first two or three waves of planetary defenses. It's actually very efficient.
They're a great weapon, powerful, effective, fairly easy to deliver for a skilled pilot, and with many creative uses, such as the tribute techniques described above. The only reason I never use them is that it's a waste of space to stockpile large numbers (50+) of them in your holds, and I hate always having to run back to one of the few systems that carry them to restock...especially if I've pissed that system off!
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Originally posted by forge: 1: Nope, that's just plain wrong. As an example, outfit a Kestrel with space bombs and all the three thrust/speed/turning enhancements. It's not a slow ship by any means. Corvettes are also quite capable of using space bombs.
How many space bombs can you load on your corvette?
Originally posted by forge: 2: In the EV 1.0.5 data files the damage for Forklits are 1000/1000. For space bombs they are 750/750. In EV 1.0.1 the damage for both of them are 1000/1000. Guess which one I use.
Guess what version is accreditted with proper statistics... 1.0.5 Other versions don't count, the baseline is always the one that is authorized to be sold by Ambrosia.
Originally posted by forge: 3: On the contrary, I prefer to use neutron cannons and proton turrets rather than missiles and bombs.
Me too. They inflict infinite damage.
Originally posted by forge: My main uses for space bombs are for softening up heavy capital ships and for taking out the first two or three waves of planetary defenses. It's actually very efficient.
I guess you're not a montier?
Originally posted by General Rak: How many space bombs can you load on your corvette?
I think it held somewhere in the 12-15 range. I haven't played EV for a couple years though so I'm not too sure on the exact number.
**I guess you're not a montier? **
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Originally posted by forge: I think it held somewhere in the 12-15 range. I haven't played EV for a couple years though so I'm not too sure on the exact number.
That's it? Let's look at a typical loadout of the corvette... *Once stripped of all weapons, 156 Tonnes is free
2 Proton Turrets (60T) 2 Space Bomb Launchers (60T)
Maximum of 18 carried space bombs. But corvette must maintain extremely minimal armament.
Conclusion- With a full armament, very few space bombs can be carried Advisory- Only use Kestrel or up for space bombs, and that's cutting it
Originally posted by forge: **No idea what you're talking about. **
It means you love to use the monty python. Hence mont y ier.
I rarely use space bombs, but here are my thoughts: Why must you have two space bomb launchers? I always use only one launcher for all my secondaries except for Javelin Rockets. Personally, I prefer Javelin Rockets because they are easy to get and weigh nothing. However, I can see how space bombs are nice for those who don't want to waste time fighting capital ships. Also, can you Monty Python in EV? I have only done it in EVO because the ships are so slow it isn't difficult.
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Monty Python is easier in EV, because the AI dosen't recognize it at all, so it will stupidly fall for it pretty much every time. It won't work in Nova though, Matt got the AI upgraded so that it doesn't.
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Originally posted by General Rak: **It means you love to use the monty python. Hence mont y ier. **
You ever try to do that with Neutron cannons? I tended towards circling ships while facing them and mainly using the cannons since their range sucked. The only ship I've ever really had to Monty Python was the Dreadnought in EVO and that was about three years ago.