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EV or EVO. Hmmm, let's see....
The two are very different. EV, for one, had a more "international" feel to it (probably because of the large number of independent systems, unlike EVO where most of the planets are owned by governemnts, save for a few south of UE space.) you went to spaceports and they each a specific "character" to it (The "Frozen Heart"/"Femme Fatale" universe, in this regard, did EV one better). Also, EV seemed more balanced in ships than EVO. Let me explain: I recently downloaded Schmelta-V. I then made a plugin with one new mission "Big Battle." It was a battle between 15 Rebel ships and 15 Confed ships. And the battle was huge. The ships went all over the screen. I did not participate in the battle, but I enjoyed watching the to and fro of it. Compare that to EVO, when I first did the Battle of Voinia in "Reign on the UE." Rather than the massive, system-wide battle I hoped it to be, it turned out to be a close-range slugfest near Voina. So I split the battle up into two parts (defeat the Voinian fleet and lead the UE attack fleet) so that the two sides could meet each other and fight, instead of just fighting as a jumped into the system. On the ohter hand, when I earlier did a similar battle (just for fun) in the Eltor system (w/no stellars), the battle was system-wide. Maybe it was just those UE Dreadnoughts in the Battle of Voinia....
On the other hand, EVO gets you into the action more quickly (at least for me.) I, for one, have never been able to access the Rebel missions or Confed (well, I did do one Confed mission recently- the first shipping one) in EV. In EVO, as soon as you go into Earth's bar, you get a UE shipping mission that can eventually lead you to greater things. Also, the Miranu missions start immediately upon entering Mira's bar. As a result, I am a trader in EV and a warrior of sorts in EVO (I've done the UE central objective, done the nebula missions, completed Paaren station, and am on the Izadra string.) Also, in dissension from LovEV, the Renegades in EVO are easier than the Pirates in EV. (I hated being killed by a pirate Clipper's missiles in EV) In fact, I've conquered Gorky in the Yelts system in EVO, though I have not killed many pirates, or anything else for that matter, in EV. Also, EVO is designed for extensions, while EV is not (storyline-wise). All the EVO central objectives are open ended (the pushing back of the Voinian frontier (what will come of this alliance), the nebula exploration (what lies beyond the nebulae), the destablization of the Strand War (how will it end, if it does?)), not to mention Council Station and what lies beyond the Crescent. Just compare the major good expansion plugins for the two games. In EV, they are usually expansions of the universe (like Pale) or they modify the storyline somewhat/begin after a certain time (New Horizons and Mugabi & Destiny, for example). In EVO, they mostly continue the storyline where the mission objectives leave off (Reign of the Voinians 1 & 2, Reign of the UE :), F-25, Secession, and Beyond the Crescent, just to name a few off the top of my head.)
Finally, EVO seems to be the underdog in this poll, so my vote goes to...
EVO.
God bless,
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Originally posted by Macavenger: **EV
Never registered EVO, cause it was too minor an upgrade (engine-wise) for $15. I do kinda like the EVO story, but EV's simplicity is rather attractive.
And, Carno, UR is right on your Spanish. Cero is zero, nada means nothing, not zero. I assume UR is probably fluen in Spanish, since he's from Southern Spain, but I know a fair amount too, not just going off him.
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Well, not fluent. I do speak pretty well though. I am learning spanish, but I can't understand what my friends are saying sometimes.
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Is this right?
EV=14
EVO=1
There should be a link to this on the EVO board to even things up...
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Originally posted by diddlysquat: **Is this right?
no it isn't right. EV=16 EVO=1
Originally posted by UE Patriot: **EV or EVO. Hmmm, let's see....
I'm sure we all saw that coming.
Wow...I can't believe how many votes went for EV. You've all got taste!
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EV sucks!!!
EVO has my vote
Ducks and hides
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Hey Mikee, if one of us (like me :)) were to post a link to this on the EVO board, to even this up a bit, would you count that as spamming and karmaslap? If not, I might do it, we've got like 10% voting for EVO, and That's not really fair, since this is on the EV board.
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Originally posted by Macavenger: **Hey Mikee, if one of us (like me:) ) were to post a link to this on the EVO board, to even this up a bit, would you count that as spamming and karmaslap? If not, I might do it, we've got like 10% voting for EVO, and That's not really fair, since this is on the EV board.
Heck no.
I very rarely ever karmaslap. Don't worry about making a mistake everyone, you will only be warned about it.
I'm not a bad guy, really!
On the other hand, EVO gets you into the action more quickly (at least for me.) I, for one, have never been able to access the Rebel missions or Confed (well, I did do one Confed mission recently- the first shipping one) in EV. In EVO, as soon as you go into Earth's bar, you get a UE shipping mission that can eventually lead you to greater things. Also, the Miranu missions start immediately upon entering Mira's bar. As a result, I am a trader in EV and a warrior of sorts in EVO (I've done the UE central objective, done the nebula missions, completed Paaren station, and am on the Izadra string.)**
In EV, the Rebel/Confed missions only begin when you have a minimum combat reputation, something like "Average". Being "Harmless" or "Mostly Harmless" will get you nowhere as a Rebel/Confed. So you actually do need to trade/courier for a while, buy a decent ship, kill some pirates, then get the Rebel/Confed missions. You can't sign up for the Rebels/Confeds right away; at least that's been my experience.
Also, in dissension from LovEV, the Renegades in EVO are easier than the Pirates in EV. (I hated being killed by a pirate Clipper's missiles in EV)
In standard EV the pirate Clippers are a joke. Their missiles are unguided Javelins so you can dodge them and the Clippers themselves are slow enough that you can run away, especially with an afterburner. Once they're off the screen, you can jump out of the system. They can't catch up in time to hit you. The dangerous pirates are the Corvettes, Lightnings and Kestrels, because of the missiles. And Rapiers (torpedoes) too, if you have a really slow ship (the Light/Bulk Freighters). But they tend to be near the Fringe. Closer to the center, the pirates tend to be Defenders, Argosies and Clippers. The first is easy to destroy and the others are easy to outrun.
In EVO, on the other hand, it's really easy to run into Renegade Helians, who carry missiles, which spell instant doom for the shuttle.
Just compare the major good expansion plugins for the two games. In EV, they are usually expansions of the universe (like Pale) or they modify the storyline somewhat/begin after a certain time (New Horizons and Mugabi & Destiny, for example). In EVO, they mostly continue the storyline where the mission objectives leave off (Reign of the Voinians 1 & 2, Reign of the UE :), F-25, Secession, and Beyond the Crescent, just to name a few off the top of my head.)
I don't use plug-ins. How do you get them to work? I got one that won't work for EV, it's called the quantamire trilogy, it's a total conversion one. I got it from a mac addict demo cd. I think that if this were on the evo board, evo would win
I read the intro to EVO ... and never even tried it. EVO has TOO MANY "sides" for a player to choose. (If that makes any sense.)
I prefer the simplicity of EV's two major governments, two minor governments, lots of independents, and of course the pirates and aliens.
EV.
-KK
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I like how EV's governments are actually well planned out. People say "EV" for simplicity, but they're wrong. EV is for the tactical freaks.
Last time I said something along those lines I got a karma raise for it.... I wonder what overly nice moderator did that. I would have much preferred to deserve a karma point than get one for some stupid comment that one moderator found funny.
<shrugs> Why am I complaining?
PS: I have already voted.
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Uhmmm.... When I first saw this, I expected everyone to vote for EVO. I'm kind of surprised now... EV has far to few ships to be satisfying, and there's no ship filling out between the Argosy and the Corvette. EV's universe is explored at a few hours, EVO's is more challenging and intriguing. EV does only have two factions (Good vs Evil) that stands and bangs at each other without coming anywhere. In EVO there are many factions and with them you conquer planets, you destroy planets & you overthrow governaments! Plus, there are no funny aliens in EV as in EVO, save for the boring suckers in ugly red ships that's almost impposible to destroy. The Renegades are cooler then the Pirates, at least the southern human Renegades lead by the Captains of Freeport. There are more unfinished intriguing things in EVO to build plug-ins from; The Council, The unsettled planets in the nebulas, The future of the strandless, The Strand War......
As one might guess, I do vote for EV:Override.
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Originally posted by SilverDragon: **I like how EV's governments are actually well planned out. People say "EV" for simplicity, but they're wrong. EV is for the tactical freaks.
If you have negative karma, it goes back to zero after 25 posts.
Originally posted by Wratho: EV does only have two factions (Good vs Evil) that stands and bangs at each other without coming anywhere.
I would say that while Escape Velocity has a Good vs. Good conflict, Override has a mixture of Good vs. Evil and Neutral vs. Neutral. I find Good vs. Good a lot more interesting.
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Originally posted by Wratho: Uhmmm.... When I first saw this, I expected everyone to vote for EVO. I'm kind of surprised now...
I'm not surprised.
Originally posted by Wratho: EV has far to few ships to be satisfying, and there's no ship filling out between the Argosy and the Corvette.
That's because there isn't supposed to be, there is no gap.
Originally posted by Wratho: EV's universe is explored at a few hours, EVO's is more challenging and intriguing.
And??? what is so bad about that? Simple galaxies are easier for newbies.
Originally posted by Wratho: EV does only have two factions (Good vs Evil) that stands and bangs at each other without coming anywhere. In EVO there are many factions and with them you conquer planets, you destroy planets & you overthrow governaments!
That's the point! A simple Rebel vs. Empire type plot (though some will disagree with this). It's the classic and highly popular plot!
Originally posted by Wratho: Plus, there are no funny aliens in EV as in EVO, save for the boring suckers in ugly red ships that's almost impposible to destroy.
I disagree. The Aliens in EV are coooool!
Originally posted by Wratho: The Renegades are cooler then the Pirates, at least the southern human Renegades lead by the Captains of Freeport.
Eh, Renegades sounds stupid. Go with Pirates.
Originally posted by Wratho: There are more unfinished intriguing things in EVO to build plug-ins from; The Council, The unsettled planets in the nebulas, The future of the strandless, The Strand War......
Not entirely. Take George's World for example. Or how about the origin of the aliens?
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Pirates do sound cooler. And the origin of the aliens! What a cool plot idea... Or if it there was an alternate universe where the aliens had won...
Originally posted by diddlysquat: **Pirates do sound cooler. And the origin of the aliens! What a cool plot idea... Or if it there was an alternate universe where the aliens had won... **
Yes! Great idea! Maybe one day I'll create a plug like that...
And yes, Renegades is a lame name.
Originally posted by Captain Carnotaur: **Yes! Great idea! Maybe one day I'll create a plug like that...
What would that be, #5?