Project FW2 (thread 2)

No, not a new level set!
A NEW GAME!!
I can program (Ask cat99 about that) and Ferazel is a great game. How cool could a sequel get?

And why, oh why, did my last PFW2 thread get closed?

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That game said it needed OS Eight or better, but it wouldn't work on Windows NINETY-eight... I wonder why?

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Posted by ReverantChaos:
And why, oh why, did my last PFW2 thread get closed?

Its because its never going to happen. And re-starting a locked topic generally doesn't make mods too happy.

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Dr. Tall says: Taller is Better
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Yes, like Tall said when a topic is locked you're nit supposed to start it again and continue unless it's reached 200 posts and is a porgress log

Also like Tall said, FW@ can't be done. It would take maybe years and is practicly immposible

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Posted by Overrider720:
porgress log

Yes, mods will not get angry if you restart a porgress log. 😛

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Dr. Tall says: Taller is Better
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I locked the previous topic because it just became worthless spam about Ben and why he was banned. It seemed to focus on gossip, not on game making. Keep this discussion centered on somewhat realistic themes, not just spouting out whatever pops into your head. As you've been told, you're skating on thin ice by restarting a topic that was closed. If it takes a different turn than the previous one, fine and dandy. If it doesn't...well, you've been warned.

---Zelda

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I think that it's obvious that a 'ferazel's wand' 2 could never happen, because Ben Spees is so far-removed from contact and he probably wouldn't allow it.

But Ferazel introduces some great new engine concepts; why not create a new game, that has an improved version of the 'mascot' engine in it, and has similar gameplay? How much cooler would Ferazel be if you could improve spells to make them stronger, or get other playable characters with their own special abilities?

This isn't a gossip thread. I want people's ideas and suggestions, and maybe, if I have the time, I'll see what I can do.

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That game said it needed OS Eight or better, but it wouldn't work on Windows NINETY-eight... I wonder why?

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Originally posted by RevenantChaos:
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This isn't a gossip thread. I want people's ideas and suggestions, and maybe, if I have the time, I'll see what I can do.
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That's fine. I admire your ambition. I wish you luck!

---Zelda

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I am your Fairy Godmoderator.

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I don't even think Ben Spees is allowed to allow it. Because Ambrosia Software distributed it, I think they have rights over Ferazel's Wand. And I have a feeling moki is more protective of his rights than Ben is.

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"Mr (spamd00d) stood far back, his hat in his hand, counting the bared heads. Twelve. I'm thirteen. No. The chap (with) the macintosh is thirteen. Death's number...silly superstition that about thirteen." (12/10)

Well, we could always call it "Ferzel's Wand 2" instead of "Ferazel's Wand 2"

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That game said it needed OS Eight or better, but it wouldn't work on Windows NINETY-eight... I wonder why?

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Originally posted by RevenantChaos:
**Well, we could always call it "Ferzel's Wand 2" instead of "Ferazel's Wand 2"
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no you can't. That is like calling Escape Velocity, Escaping Velocity. You can't do it. It's not fair to the creators of the game

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Originally posted by spamguy:
**I don't even think Ben Spees is allowed to allow it. Because Ambrosia Software distributed it, I think they have rights over Ferazel's Wand. And I have a feeling moki is more protective of his rights than Ben is.
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mmm..I dunno. Ambrosia has distribution rights, that's what they contracted to do...I'm not sure that means they have creative ownership of it. Interesting question.

---Zelda

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I am your Fairy Godmoderator.

Hey, if you're in love with someone, then you have every right to completely screw up their life.--cynical me!

No: My long thought of sequel title: Ferazel's Wrath. Ferazel is evil.

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LoL And you play as Xichra, right?

Can we have some real (lol) suggestions here?

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All your base are belong to us!
TRY SOL II! A FUN, FREE ONLINE RPG! (url="http://"http://sol2.knkonline.net")http://sol2.knkonline.net(/url)
That game said it needed OS Eight or better, but it wouldn't work on Windows NINETY-eight... I wonder why?

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Originally posted by Zelda:
**mmm..I dunno. Ambrosia has distribution rights, that's what they contracted to do...I'm not sure that means they have creative ownership of it. Interesting question.
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Indeed. I'll bug moki and see what he says.

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"Mr (spamd00d) stood far back, his hat in his hand, counting the bared heads. Twelve. I'm thirteen. No. The chap (with) the macintosh is thirteen. Death's number...silly superstition that about thirteen." (12/10)

Receiving prompt response from The Man Upstairs -- and that's really what makes this company great, having direct connection to the head if you have issues! Seriously! -- I have received my answer.

(shortened for space constraints)

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10:59 PM spamguy: moki: quick question
11:00 PM moki: ya?
11:01 PM spamguy: Who has ownership rights to a game you ship: Ambrosia, or the game's author?
11:01 PM moki: we do
11:01 PM spamguy: That's what I thought
11:02 PM spamguy: So if an author agrees to hop on the Ambrosia boat, he agrees to hand all rights to you?
11:02 PM moki: spam: well, it isn't "all rights" -- it isn't that simple
11:03 PM moki: but yes, a good bit of the intellectual property by necessity has to become the publishers
11:03 PM moki: this is industry standard
11:03 PM moki: (and with good reason)
11:03 PM hawk notes that George Lucas took a pay cut for the first Star Wars in 1977 in exchange to full liscensing rights
11:03 PM spamguy: Righto...the Ferazel people are having an argument about that

So there we are. There will be no Ferazel 2 for any reason because

  1. Ambrosia owns generally all conceptual rights to the game, not Ben
  2. we would need Ben's input, which is utterly impossible since moki kicked him out
  3. we have no ability to competitively top the original without stealing media from it
  4. people would be demanding 3D and multiplayer, and we can't offer that :rolleyes:

I would prefer and insist that this topic die a quick death, since it encourages unrest among the peaceful citizens.

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"Mr (spamd00d) stood far back, his hat in his hand, counting the bared heads. Twelve. I'm thirteen. No. The chap (with) the macintosh is thirteen. Death's number...silly superstition that about thirteen." (12/10)

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Posted by spamguy:
people would be demanding 3D and multiplayer, and we can't offer that

I wonder how many topics out there are titled: "EVO MULTIPLAYER????????"

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Dr. Tall says: Taller is Better
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(This message has been edited by Dr Tall (edited 12-24-2001).)

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Originally posted by Dr Tall:
**I wonder how many topics out there are titled: "EVO MULTIPLAYER????????"

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way too many! 🙂

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Originally posted by Dr Tall:
**I wonder how many topics out there are titled: "EVO MULTIPLAYER????????"

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This was a running gag last night on #ev3. The outcome was a little round of silliness, and me defacing Ambrosia property:
(url="http://"http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/webboard/Forum46/HTML/000013.html")http://www.AmbrosiaS...TML/000013.html(/url)

😉

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"Mr (spamd00d) stood far back, his hat in his hand, counting the bared heads. Twelve. I'm thirteen. No. The chap (with) the macintosh is thirteen. Death's number...silly superstition that about thirteen." (12/10)