New Util For Systems?

orcaloverbri9

Well, I noticed some people complaining about the grueling process of figuring out the coordinates of a system on their map, without using a graphical thing like MC or EVNEW (especially on Windows).

Now, when graphical system editors run rampant, this utility will probably be mostly obsolete. But, for now, it could be useful.

Anyhow, I decided to make a Perl script that uses GD.pm to do this. here's how it works:

The user makes a PNG image containing a background of any color except pure blue (RGB 0,0,255) or pure red (RGB 255,0,0). They make a pure red, single pixel dot that represents the center of the universe. THen they make pure blue, single pixel dots that represent systems, however many they want. Finally, they run it through the script, which tells them, from top-left to bottom-right, the coordinates of each system.

My question, as implied by the topic title, is if anyone would be interested in this, or if I'm wasting my time.

So far, I've installed GD.pm, and can successfully create an image in the script, which I can read the pixel colors of. I've planned how I would make the utility, but I don't want to spend my time on something nobody will ever use.

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The programmer's code of entomology: there's always another bug.
There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who have friends.
Windows users: stop asking for plugins. (url="http://"http://www.aznt.com/EVN/EVNEW/")Make one yourself.(/url)
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(This message has been edited by orcaloverbri9 (edited 05-13-2004).)

dzeron

Sorry, but that kind of program already exists ^^' So, don't do it, cause its waste of your time.

But instead, try to make a program that studies syst resource and makes png image out of them ^^

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Actually I wouldn't call EVNEW a "graphical", as it really ain't, contains only text and sheets ^^

(This message has been edited by dzeron (edited 05-14-2004).)

orcaloverbri9

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Originally posted by dzeron:
Sorry, but that kind of program already exists ^^' So, don't do it, cause its waste of your time.

Pardon? What program, exatly?

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There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who have friends.
Windows users: stop asking for plugins. (url="http://"http://www.aznt.com/EVN/EVNEW/")Make one yourself.(/url)
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dzeron

TC Map Maker, if I remember right

You decide the map size (in pixels I guess :D)

And then there is one star (0,0) and then you can click around the map and it generates system, though you c an't link them nor such. You can then save it in text sheet and import it in Mission Computer or such, at least so I've heard, I haven't done anything with it, except for clicking around for fun

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edit: Does quite about the same as you said, so... that's why it would be waste of time for you ^^

(This message has been edited by dzeron (edited 05-14-2004).)

mrxak

I do like the idea of a program that takes s˙st data and turns it into a picture, but MC already does this.

dzeron

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Originally posted by mrxak:
**I do like the idea of a program that takes s˙st data and turns it into a picture, but MC already does this.

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MC does? Windows users need something like that too, EVNEW doesn't, or, I'm blind and it does

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orcaloverbri9

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Originally posted by mrxak:
I do like the idea of a program that takes s˙st data and turns it into a picture, but MC already does this.

As do EVONE and NovaBurst. And that's just the Nova editors...EVO Developer's Map, EV Developer's Map, EV-Edit, just to name a few.

But of course, that's on a Mac. On a Windows computer, those aren't available except on an emulator. I might do this, but it would need to be in text format, from either EVEW text export or ConText. But that would mean reinstalling libgd and such, and I don't intend to do that at this point.

dzeron: It doesn't sound the same. Does it read an image and tell you the coordinates? I didn't think so. The point is that, as you may have noticed in your topic, people often make a plan of how their map will look. So, instead of spending hours trying to figure out every single one, they could just run it through the script and it would tell them.

In any case, I may make it regardless because it would be good practice. And would add to my list of utilities ((url="http://"http://bri_code.tripod.com/convert.html")English to 1337 Converter(/url), (url="http://"http://bri_code.tripod.com/hexdec.html")Hexadecimal to Decimal Converter(/url), and (url="http://"http://bri_code.tripod.com/cgi-bin/ubbprev.cgi")UBB Forum Prevewer(/url)).

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The programmer's code of entomology: there's always another bug.
There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who have friends.
Windows users: stop asking for plugins. (url="http://"http://www.aznt.com/EVN/EVNEW/")Make one yourself.(/url)
(url="http://"http://www.cwssoftware.com")Sephil Saga Website(/url) | (url="http://"http://www.evula.org/infernostudios/search.html")Add-ons Search Engine(/url)

dzeron

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Originally posted by orcaloverbri9:
**dzeron: It doesn't sound the same. Does it read an image and tell you the coordinates? I didn't think so. The point is that, as you may have noticed in your topic, people often make a plan of how their map will look. So, instead of spending hours trying to figure out every single one, they could just run it through the script and it would tell them.

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Nope, it doesn't read image and tell you the coordinates, but you point click on huge black screen which shows systems and it creates system in those coordinates and then you can import it into text format and load it to mission computer, so, in general, it does the same, though, in different fashion

So in one way, it would be waste of time, but, if it was in windows format, then it would help some windows users ^^

I by myself made the star map by watch real life starmap, selecting brighter stars and entering their coordinates, though, multiplied by 10, I got the map as Y axel mirror image, but... I don't matter, feels better to fly up than down, so its actually better that way ^^ (I'll never admit I made error after making 265 systems and then noticing the Y axel being mirrored XDD)

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orcaloverbri9

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Originally posted by dzeron:
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Nope, it doesn't read image and tell you the coordinates, but you point click on huge black screen which shows systems and it creates system in those coordinates and then you can import it into text format and load it to mission computer, so, in general, it does the same, though, in different fashion

So in one way, it would be waste of time, but, if it was in windows format, then it would help some windows users ^^**

Yo...it would be a CGI script...and as stated in the original post (it seems you scanned it), it is meant especially for Windows users.

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The programmer's code of entomology: there's always another bug.
There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who have friends.
Windows users: stop asking for plugins. (url="http://"http://www.aznt.com/EVN/EVNEW/")Make one yourself.(/url)
(url="http://"http://www.cwssoftware.com")Sephil Saga Website(/url) | (url="http://"http://www.evula.org/infernostudios/search.html")Add-ons Search Engine(/url)

dzeron

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Originally posted by orcaloverbri9:
**Yo...it would be a CGI script...and as stated in the original post (it seems you scanned it), it is meant especially for Windows users.

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When making it, make sure you can export the image to text file and check that EVNEW can import that text file, I'll give you then 2 credits ^^

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edit: Orca ~ That plugin sounds awesome Points at the link to Sephil Saga

(This message has been edited by dzeron (edited 05-15-2004).)

orcaloverbri9

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Originally posted by dzeron:
When making it, make sure you can export the image to text file and check that EVNEW can import that text file, I'll give you then 2 credits ^^

?? How could I export it as a text file? It'd be on a remote server (if I can find one...). Or I could distribute it as a do-it-yourself kit type thing, in which case I could export it. However, I don't know EVNEW's export format, so yeah...

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edit: Orca ~ That plugin sounds awesome Points at the link to Sephil Saga

Join the club.

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The programmer's code of entomology: there's always another bug.
There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who have friends.
Windows users: stop asking for plugins. (url="http://"http://www.aznt.com/EVN/EVNEW/")Make one yourself.(/url)
(url="http://"http://www.cwssoftware.com")Sephil Saga Website(/url) | (url="http://"http://www.evula.org/infernostudios/search.html")Add-ons Search Engine(/url)

(This message has been edited by orcaloverbri9 (edited 05-15-2004).)

dzeron

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Originally posted by orcaloverbri9:
**?? How could I export it as a text file? It'd be on a remote server (if I can find one...). Or I could distribute it as a do-it-yourself kit type thing, in which case I could export it. However, I don't know EVNEW's export format, so yeah...

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I used bad word for it, its more of 'saving' in text instead of exporting in text, though, does the same.

I made 8 system rez (systems named as (syst 1), (syst 2) etc) and saved it in text format.

Its actually pretty straight forward kind of thing, there is simply one tab for everything in system, I'll link those for you so you can check by yourself.

(url="http://"http://www.dzeron.com/evnova/data.rez")DATA.REZ(/url)

(url="http://"http://www.dzeron.com/evnova/data.txt")DATA.TXT(/url)

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