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Alright, I'm yet another person who is just starting to work with ResEdit and Novatools. I'm figuring out most of it, but I'm not sure exactly how to start a new plug. Is it just a new ResEdit document? If so, it doesn't seen to have all the fields required (I can't find a Përs or Gövt fields, for example) Oh, and by the way, I did search this. Thanks in Advance
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Originally posted by Veritus Dartarion: Alright, I'm yet another person who is just starting to work with ResEdit and Novatools. I'm figuring out most of it, but I'm not sure exactly how to start a new plug. Is it just a new ResEdit document?
In order for Nova to recognize the file as a plugin, you have to change the file type/creator of a new resedit file to Npďf and Növä, respectively.
Originally posted by Veritus Dartarion: If so, it doesn't seen to have all the fields required (I can't find a Përs or Gövt fields, for example)
You can just type them in manually. (Press and hold option down, then type 'u', let go of option, and then type a letter ('i', for example) to get the döts, but it looks like you already know that.)
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Originally posted by MadFax7: In order for Nova to recognize the file as a plugin, you have to change the file type/creator of a new resedit file to Npďf and Növä, respectively.
How exactly do I do that? They should really explain this in the bible.
In the file menu, Get file/folder info. Select the file, and change the type and creator.
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Originally posted by Veritus Dartarion: How exactly do I do that?
Under the file menu in ResEdit, choose either 'Get Info for <pluginnam>' or 'Get File/Folder Info...'.
(edit)Bah, SpacePirate beat me to it! ;)(/edit)
Originally posted by Veritus Dartarion: They should really explain this in the bible.
The bible explains what the resources in Nova/EVC/EVO do, not what ResEdit does.
I agree with Veritus Dartarion on that point. Either that or, like with the old EVO bible, it could include a blank plug-in with the bible.'
On a side note, I wonder how hard it would be to make an addition to Nova Tools that would make a new Res-Edit file an new Nova Plug-in? I don't know how to do that kind of programming, but it would be very convienent (especially for beginners).
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Okay, I've got some more problems with my new plug. 1)Whenever I open the Spöb resorce (perhaps others are like this, I don't know,) I get gibberish numbers instead of the menus that I believe are put there by novatools Oddly, the Përs and Gövt fields work fine, so I know I have Novatools installed. Also, I checked to make sure all of the things in Novatools got in ResEdit.
(This message has been edited by Veritus Dartarion (edited 08-18-2002).)
Originally posted by Veritus Dartarion: **Okay, I've got some more problems with my new plug. 1)Whenever I open the Spöb resorce (perhaps others are like this, I don't know,) I get gibberish numbers instead of the menus that I believe are put there by novatools Oddly, the Përs and Gövt fields work fine, so I know I have Novatools installed. Also, I checked to make sure all of the things in Novatools got in ResEdit.
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1: It should be "spöb", not "Spöb." If that's the case, I dunno what the matter is.
2: For gövts and përs', etc, select the one you want to name. Then hit command + i. Rename it in the second field, replace the resID (if you want to) in the first field. and do not change any other stuff.
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(This message has been edited by Mantaray (edited 08-18-2002).)
Originally posted by Mantaray: 1: It should be "spöb", not "Spöb." If that's the case, I dunno what the matter is.
I did have it lowercase. I guess I'll mess around with it some more.
** 2: For gövts and përs', etc, select the one you want to name. Then hit command + i. Rename it in the second field, replace the resID (if you want to) in the first field. and do not change any other stuff. **
why would you change the ID? Just if it conflicted with another one?
Originally posted by Veritus Dartarion: ** why would you change the ID? Just if it conflicted with another one?
That, and some times you need to. For instance, mission dësc IDs are 4000 + mďsn ID - 128. That's the number you put in the ResID field. (A mďsn with the ID of 128 would mean it's corosponding dësc would be 4000)
Hope that made sense!
Does anyone else know why spöb wouldn't bring up the right page? I'll recheck my prefrences, but I think everything's right.
Originally posted by Mantaray: **That, and some times you need to. For instance, mission dësc IDs are 4000 + mďsn ID - 128. That's the number you put in the ResID field. (A mďsn with the ID of 128 would mean it's corosponding dësc would be 4000)
Hope that made sense! **
hmm, I think I understand, but that's not my major trouble right now. Neither my spöb or s˙st resorces work.
I had the same problem with my shďp resources, and maybe a couple others...try reinstalling Nova Tools, that seemed to work for me....but it might of been something else I'd done too....
If all else fails, you could use Res-Edit without Nova Tools. The only complete editors that existed for EV and EVO that I ever used were very unstable and buggy, so most people just used Res-Edit and we got along just fine.
The only thing that Nova Tools does that I find truly great is show you how your annimations and ships will appear in the game. But I havn't extensivly used Nova Tools yet - I'm mainly doing graphics right now.
Okay, I took your advice and downloaded ResEdit and Novatools again. Deleted the prefrences, then copied all the stuff from novatools into it, and it STILL DOESN'T WORK! I know I'm typing spöb and s˙st right, because I get the nova icon on the resorce, but when I open it, there are just coloums of numbers. Does anyone else have an idea? Besause I'd hate to give up my plug ideas just because of a lously bug.
I always copied the tmlp resource into my plugin file to help out. That should allow you to scroll down the list of available resources when you make a new resource. One way you could do it is to modify another plugin that has already been made - but the downside to this is that you will not really learn the ins and outs of ResEdit. Just my 2 cents.
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It won't work even if I open up another plug that I downloaded
what temlate are you using? Try deleting the resedit prefs and starting over with just resedit with the template that comes with the bible. Try that out first and see what happens. Do you get a drop down list when you try to create a new resource?
What happens if you copy and paste a wëap resource from another plugin?
Do you see the resources in other plugs or in the data files in ResEdit?
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Originally posted by roninuta: **what temlate are you using? Try deleting the resedit prefs and starting over with just resedit with the template that comes with the bible. Try that out first and see what happens. Do you get a drop down list when you try to create a new resource?
Do you see the resources in other plugs or in the data files in ResEdit? **
added: I don't see any templates that come w/ the bible btw, for some reason spöb and s˙st don't appear in the new resorces window, but everting else seems to. ------------------ "How many boards would the Mongols hoard if the Mongol hoards got bored."
(This message has been edited by Veritus Dartarion (edited 08-19-2002).)
Email me at ronin_uta@yahoo.com and I will send you the template that I use along with my pref file for Nova tools.
Maybe that will help ya.
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