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HI every-body! HI Dr. Nick!
Hey there! Thought I would start with a little about myself. Obviously you can read some stuff about me in my profile, but here is some more. I am 16 and a faithful Christian. I was recently expelled from school for toking at the buss stop... I know I am a retard but moving on :mad:... So they sent me to a school that is from 7 to 10 am, so I got a lot of new time on my hands. I just started editing plug-ins and it is a bit daunting to say the least :eek:! I really want to create practically a whole new game with a plug-in with the exception of the systems being almost the same and some of the same outfits. I am using EV Edit but I have heard there is some better stuff out there, any locations or ideas? In EV Edit I cant seem to delete resources. I have tried cut, clear and the delete key one the k-board but it just crashes, any ideas? Tell me some trade secrets, better utilities. Talk to me like I am kinda new to everything! Also, are there seperate programs for editing diff resources? Like misn editors, outf, ect? Are they better/worse? easier/ harder? Available/where? I hope to beome a plug-in maniac and perhaps get to know some of you! ~Thanks a bunch!
Ps oh ya! What is the rating thing? (0) Clean, (5) Pillar of Society ect.?
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Originally posted by DiNaMo: ** Thought I would start with a little about myself. Obviously you can read some stuff about me in my profile, but here is some more. I am 16 and a faithful Christian.**
started by Octoberfost; ** I'm 15 and an ardent atheist. I look forward to opposing you in the next Religion vs Atheism debate:) **
Well I love ya anyway and it will be a blast having religious arguments. I used to be an atheist, long time ago. Effed up a lot too. Maybe someday you will become a Christian, or at least believe in Christ. But for now, I am just gonna work on getting better learned at plug-in developing.
** There are other good programs out there, including ShipeWrite, EVO Developer's Map, and (of course) ResEdit. ResEdit is the best, in my opinion, but its a little tricky to learn. Download the EVO Bible and read it, that explains most of it. **
Hrmmmm... where is shipewrite, evo D. Map and are they just like EV Edit? I have res edit (DUH!) but how do you use it alone to make plug-ins? I have tried to read the EV Bible but it might as well be in chinese until I get the basics... like what does resource mean? ~Thanks for the response ~HE loves you despite all things
Originally posted by DiNaMo: **Well I love ya anyway and it will be a blast having religious arguments. I used to be an atheist, long time ago. Effed up a lot too. Maybe someday you will become a Christian, or at least believe in Christ. But for now, I am just gonna work on getting better learned at plug-in developing. **
Heh. Well, I used to be a Christian, I even went to a Catholic school. But that's behind me right now. For a good debate, go to the EV Banter and Brawl Webboard. They have them like every week now.
**Hrmmmm... where is shipewrite, evo D. Map and are they just like EV Edit? I have res edit (DUH!) but how do you use it alone to make plug-ins? I have tried to read the EV Bible but it might as well be in chinese until I get the basics... like what does resource mean? **
EVO Developer's Map is simmilar to EV-Edit's system and spob editing, but much faster and more advance. You'll need EVO version 1.0.2, and EVO Dev Map is available fron Pontus's Website.
Shipwrite is like EV-Edit's ship editing, but a little more advanced. You can see how the ship will spin in the game, for example, and its much more stable. It has a few problems with pasting pictures, but nothing serious. Again, you'll need EVO version 1.0.2 and Shipwrite is available from R&R; Software.
Pontus's EV/O Website: (url="http://"http://members01.chello.se/warlordpontus/ev/")http://members01.che...rlordpontus/ev/(/url) R&R; Software: (url="http://"http://www.sutherland-studios.com.au/family/evo_software.html")http://www.sutherlan...o_software.html(/url)
R&R; also have some other stuff, maily Mission Control and some stuff for ResEdit. Mission control has even more bugs and problems then EV-Edit, so I don't recommend you use it. As for the ResEdit add-ons, try them out. They give ResEdit a human face.
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Originally posted by OctoberFost: **EVO Developer's Map is simmilar to EV-Edit's system and spob editing, but much faster and more advance. You'll need EVO version 1.0.2, and EVO Dev Map is available fron Pontus's Website. **
So it is only for systems and sobs(?!)? And how is it more advanced? I didnt think it could get much different. Is it harder or just more detailed providing more felxibility or just more pain?
** Shipwrite is like EV-Edit's ship editing, but a little more advanced. You can see how the ship will spin in the game, for example, and its much more stable. It has a few problems with pasting pictures, but nothing serious. Again, you'll need EVO version 1.0.2 and Shipwrite is available from R &R; Software.**
Originally posted by DiNaMo: I was recently expelled from school for toking at the buss stop
toking at the bus stop?
Originally posted by DiNaMo: Ps oh ya! What is the rating thing? (0) Clean, (5) Pillar of Society ect.?
It's for moderators (like me) to reward good behavior and punish bad behavior. If your karma hits -10, you are banned. If you're good, it gets raised. If you have - karma, you get it raised every 25 posts or something, so if you stop being annoying your karma gradually resets to 0. Read the (url="http://"http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/webboard/guidelines.html")guidelines(/url) for more.
As for editors, look for EV:O god (sorry if it offends your religious beliefs, I didnt name it) by Shado83. It's in development but it looks like it will be very good.
To use ResEdit, create a file, copy the TMPLs from the example plugin in the EV:O plugins folder, and then read the EV:O Bible for info on what each field/value does.
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Yes, what exactly is "toking at the bus stop"? Is it some strange slang that I haven't heard of? Did you mean to say "smoking at the bus stop" or is "toking" your word for something else not generally done at a bus stop, like having sex, drinking booze, or shooting up on drugs?
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In case you dont know( I HOPE YOU DONT! ) toking means smoking pot. um... not much else to it.
Originally posted by blackhole: ** toking at the bus stop? **
smoking weed. :redface:
Originally posted by blackhole: ** EV:O god (sorry if it offends your religious beliefs, I didnt name it) **
Heh, I dont mind the name at all and I do have it and it looks like it will be an awesome tool... but thats the problem... will :mad:
Originally posted by DiNaMo: **I was recently expelled from school for toking at the buss stop... I know I am a retard but moving on:mad:... **
How'd you get caught, dude?
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Originally posted by DiNaMo: **I am 16 and a faithful Christian. **
Me too.
Anyway, never use EV-Edit to delete resources. Use Res-Edit for that. Just a warning; EV-Edit is rather buggy, so always try to get the latest version of it. I think you can get that on Mac Update or Version Tracker.
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Originally posted by Captain Carnotaur: ** Me too.**
Originally posted by skyblade: **How'd you get caught, dude?
**
the buss driver smelled it on us.
Anyway...
A resource is a little piece of information that EVO uses to store data about its ships, systems, planets, etc. There are many different types. desc, spob, weap, syst, they all control a different aspect of the game. weap refers to weapon, outf refers to outfit, and so on.
But the first rule of Resedit: don't open your system file or resedit itself with Resedit. It can and will mess things up. For now, only use Resedit on your plug and other EVO related things.
The first thing you want to do is open up both EVO data files with Resedit and copy all the resources into a new Resedit document. (it may take a few seconds on a slower machine). Don't change the orignials! Only play with the ones that you copyed. Now, bundled with the EVO Bible, you should find something called EVO templates. These are important. Open that file with resEdit and copy the "TMPL" thing into your new file too. Now, go under file and select "get info for <whatever you called your file>". Change the "type" field to "OpΔf" and the "creator" field to "EsΓ§O". (To make the little dots above a vowel hold down option and hit u, then hit the letter to have the dots over it, to make the curly c, hold down option and hit c). The icon should now change to a little EVO plug. You're now ready to make a plug!
The next step: explore. Use the EVO bible for reference, not as instructions. look at resources one at a time (I suggest looking at "ship" first, it's pretty straightforward) and try to guess what the fields do. Consult the EVO bible. See if you can make a shuttle as strong as a Kestrel.
Psalm 27
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(This message has been edited by Thursday (edited 02-11-2001).)
THANK YOU! That is soooo awesome :D! I guess it really isnt as hard as it first appears. I tried making a ship and as I did, I was trying to figure out how to use a few editors I downloaded and I got them to work :eek:! Heh, I made a courier called the Dinamo. It cant be destroyed accept by other Dinamo's and it has a beam that is one-hit-kills! It is really cool. I figured out how to make things like fighterbays (the Dinamo Bay!!!), weapons and systems. It really all is making sense! Thanks again!
PS I dont seem to have the evo bible or the temp file... I am begining to think I might have accidentily(sp?) deleted them...<mutter> Perhaps anyone out there would be kind enough to email it to me at Dinamo156@aol.com. Thanks!
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Glad to help.
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Nice, another smoker on the board...cool. I look forward to IMing you an extrolling the virtues of homegrowing.
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It sounds like you're making good progress, DiNaMo... with respect to plug-in work, that is. The next, crucial stage is to develop an appreciation for game balance. Invulnerable mega-ships can lead very rapidly to frustration and disappointment with the game. Of course, it is interesting when you make your first one... not the kind of thing that'll be fun to use long-term, though.
Didn't realise there were so many hashish fans on the EV Developers' network... I shall have to think of you guys as a 'toke-passing ring' henceforth.
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