Renegade, previously Helian, Wars beta tests

plug-in lib will open source!!!

Set up GAN (Global Area Network) maybe ? Over appleshare over IP ? It's possible to do it with up to 12 people.

New splashscreen is done. I'll set up a kinda Renegade wars website and manage it if you want tycho (Later on).

No conflicts with any systems anyway (I''ve tested it with :
OS 7.2.5
OS 7.0
OS 7.5.3
OS 7.5.5
0S 8.0
OS 8.5
OS 8.6
OS 9.0
OS 9.4

And my own HIGHLY customised (****ed up) OS (A Mixture of OS 8 through 9.4 with a system 8.1 finder, very nice and it only takes up 15mb) on my own beta/non rev. Bondi Blue iMac with a DV special edition keyboard, scsi card, orange mouse, upgraded HD,RAM, Video Card, Sound system and CD Drive and bit's and pieces ripped off other machines.

How about tonight around 8pm GMT (8pm 29th of the 6th 2000) ? It's the only time I'll be around before the gaeltacht.

Sebek :

Jam up the memory for any graphic related plug-ins (quickdraw and OpenGL to sprite surfacing) to bypass the error.

Plug-in : 1000 colour support ? Graphix will look non grainy

Oh, here's something..."interesting". Between the top north and south of Leinster (The province in which dublin is situated) there's nearly an hour time difference !!!! There's a huge meridian crossing it

Crap ASCII picture of leinster, the ooooo being the meridian


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(QUOTE)Originally posted by sebek:
(B)Tycho,
I tried to play RW, but everytime I enter the sprite surface I get an NilObjectException.
HW seems to have problems with steering.

I got the same problems... on my g4 os 9.0.4 ...
You just have to increase the amount of allocated memory...

anyone online?
maybe we should use the board time.
will wait 30 minutes

sebek

will try the game tomorrow (30th) in my companys network.

sebek

Tycho...do you have a new build? Please send it to me at:
eyteed233@aol.com.

Hey, as age goes, you cant beat me. I've been playing Avara for 2 years, and EV since it came out, and I'm only 13 now.

- Eytee

(This message has been edited by Eytee (edited 06-29-2000).)

I'm all for using the boards time-it would definately simplify all the time zones here.

Tycho, any idea as to when the test of the new build will be(or when the new build will be available)?

-Yorick

(This message has been edited by Yorick (edited 06-29-2000).)

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Originally posted by Eytee:
**Tycho...do you have a new build? Please send it to me at:
eyteed233@aol.com.

Hey, as age goes, you cant beat me. I've been playing Avara for 2 years, and EV since it came out, and I'm only 13 now.

- Eytee

(This message has been edited by Eytee (edited 06-29-2000).)**

Hey. I'm 13 and have been playing EV for it came out too!

But we should really stop this bickering. It's starting to sound VERY childish 😛

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greetings from work.
school is over work begins. gonna test HW/RW via LAN.
Tycho: Have you tested the plugin etc.?

sebek

guys:when we are through with this - let's head on net-ev.
ok, that would mean a lot of development but: it'll be soooooooo cool.
: has anyone talked to ambrosia yet (-> they hold the rights on all parts of their game, including sprites).

ciao,
sebek

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Originally posted by sebek:
**greetings from work.
school is over work begins. gonna test HW/RW via LAN.
Tycho: Have you tested the plugin etc.?

sebek
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I've been with HW since Tycho posted it on this board but what plugin?
for HW or just for EV?

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(url="http://"mailto:JAce21@chollian.net")mailto:JAce21@chollian.net(/url)JAce21@chollian.net

it is about REALbasic classes to read EVO plugins.
i will open their source when ready.
for now they have support for the following classes.
ResType(0) = "shďp"
ResType(1) = "spďn"
ResType(2) = "spďt"
ResType(3) = "wëap"
ResType(4) = "dësc"
ResType(5) = "oütf"
ResType(6) = "PICT"
ResType(7) = "STR#"
(code excerpt)
read only at the moment.
will add write support 😉

could not test HW/RW. they did'nt find any program on the net.

ciao,
sebek

Wow, I have been gone for a while. I think I might have to sort out a better way to discuss this. Any ideas.

I think these have alrady been answered but I'll do it again:

Renegade Wras, previously Helian Wars, is a two player space shoot 'em up using the same ships and weapons as in EVO. It will enventually turn into a full blown out Network EVO, but I just testing what I can do with this game. ANd it is good to see Australians. Didn't Avara have something to do with Australia?

Sebek:
Haven't tried the classes yet, sorry. I got a new Black and White Fender Squier Fat Strat the other day and haven't put it down until now. I'll check them after I post this. Yeah we will start on net-EV after this if we can get it to work. I've tried many times to talk to Ambrosia about this but they don't want to know about it. So I think we'll make our own ships eventually based on the models thta we're released a while ago.

The current build I only sent out to a few guys. It doesn't even work properly so there is no real point in sending it to anyone else. When I fix up the problems I'll post it to (url="http://"http://uq.net.au/~zzlukirk/")http://uq.net.au/~zzlukirk/(/url)

But my holidays seem to be more hectic than during my exams so it might be a bit. I'll sit down for a whole day soon and fix it up.

Tycho

You guys are all babies by the way. My first mac was a black and white classic and I used to play guantlet and kings bounty and dark castle alot on. Those were the good ol' days when even board games were cool.

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classic??? haha i started with an MacPlus. (i was 4 i think)

OK folks:
go <A href=www.sebek.de/evolib/>www.sebek.de/evolib</A>.
there i a FAT Binary of the current RW-optimized EVOLib.
it's easy download, put EVO101 data files (or aliases) into the plugin folder. add your favorite plugins (EV MAGMA!!! 😉 and start.

if you get problems: try increasing the memory first.

sebek

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Originally posted by sebek:
**OK folks:
go <A href=www.sebek.de/evolib/>www.sebek.de/evolib</A>.
there i a FAT Binary of the current RW-optimized EVOLib.
it's easy download, put EVO101 data files (or aliases) into the plugin folder. add your favorite plugins (EV MAGMA!!! 😉 and start.

if you get problems: try increasing the memory first.

sebek**

hey sebek... could you send it to me(i mean the EVOLib PPC.....)

Does anyone know how Tycho's getting along? I haven't heard from him for a while...

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Sorry about the silence.

There's two things I can do now and it sort of depends on what you guys want.

First, Continue Renegade Wars and add networking and a point based shop to buy ships and weapon upgrades

or

Second, Start on the fully networkable EVO clone with the help of the good Sebek's EVOLib.

So what do you guys want?

Tycho

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Originally posted by J.Ace21:
**hey sebek... could you send it to me(i mean the EVOLib PPC.....)

Does anyone know how Tycho's getting along? I haven't heard from him for a while...
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just download the demo app.
the source could be opened in 7 days.

sebek.

ps: i think we should first complete RW and use our expiriences with it for NETEVO

I agree with sebek. Finishing a 2-player Renegade Wars that we can distribute to use with GameRanger would be great experience for working on a NetEVO (with EVOlib), though personally, I'd like to see NetEVO finished first. It would just be to hard to pull off without prior experience.

-Eytee

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Originally posted by Tycho:
**There's two things I can do now and it sort of depends on what you guys want.

First, Continue Renegade Wars and add networking and a point based shop to buy ships and weapon upgrades

or

Second, Start on the fully networkable EVO clone with the help of the good Sebek's EVOLib.
**

Continue with Renegade Wars. This would be a good proof-of-concept thing, and good experience for a fully multiplayer EVO clone.

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