Your browser does not seem to support JavaScript. As a result, your viewing experience will be diminished, and you have been placed in read-only mode.
Please download a browser that supports JavaScript, or enable it if it's disabled (i.e. NoScript).
For a long time EV players have as for a Multiplayer EV or a 3D EV. As you probably know kberg's working on an EVMP and Tycho has a small EV Arena going. The only thing left might be an 3D EV. Though I don't know anything besides some basic i do have an idea for making a 3D EV. Anyone hear of ExoBattle? It's a small 3D space flight game that Matt Burch(for those ignorant people Matt Burch is the author of EV)made(http://falcon.cc.uka...e_1.0b2.cpt.hqx). The ship looks VERY similar to a manta in EV. It's probably possible to use this as a template for 3D EV. Matt Burch even has the source code for download(http://falcon.cc.uka...e_1.0b2.cpt.hqx). So? Anybody up for making a 3D EV??
------------------
(url="http://"mailto:JAce21@chollian.net")mailto:JAce21@chollian.net(/url)JAce21@chollian.net
No.
------------------ ERA for EV: www.geocities.com/rhysmctharin/erahome.html
Spoken like a true newbie. Ambrosia is absolutely not going to make an EV 3D, and neither is anyone else. This has been mentioned hundreds of times, and its obvious you didn't go look at the mentioned posts before posting this. Now I can make a fool out of you
Ok, Ambrosia has not the man power nor the resources to take on such a project. They can make a simpler 3D game with the OpenGL SDK (or whatever its called. I'm no programmer). Infact, they are making a 3D racing game I've yet to learn the name of. You fly around in a little space ship (hovercraft?) around courses. From the screen shots, it looked upto par with a few 3D commercial games.
EV 3D would be much more advanced, and would require writing it from the ground up etc.
My question to you is this: If Ambrosia ever made a 3D Space roleplaying game, why the PHUCK would they smack EV on its title? What the hell are you thinking? They'd call it something different, and it would have nothing to do with EV. EV is a 2D, non-multiplayer game and its god damned going to stay that way. If there ever is an 'EV3D' of 'EVMP' (which there won't) it wouldn't be called either. If ambrosia ever made such a thing, it would be called something different with significant differences so you couldn't compare it to the EV Engine. If you want EV3D, download Avara, make some ship DXFs, and with some clever level scripting (someone else has down this), you can make yourself I ship that hovers around and shoots stuff. There. Thats your EV3D. It may not be graphically up to par, but its about as complex as an EV3D will get, unless Ambrosia becomes a full blown commercial company. Even then, as I have ranted many times before, it won't damning be anything like the EV engine, or the EV universe.
Oh, and about the EVMP and the EV Arena, chances are they'll get shot down at the copyright offices, and kberg and Tycho will have to replace the graphics with original ones, and change the game play enough (well not in Tycho's case) as to avoid lawsuits by Ambrosia or whoever. This will probably mean a much simpler EVMP that loses alot of its appeal. If they do make it past the copyright offices (they won't with name, however, unless Ambrosia makes a turn around and supports the project), all to the good. But the chances of that happening are minimal.
So, you want someone to make EV3D for you? Heh. Thats hard. Very hard. I'm not even a coder and I know its very hard. Get the source code yourself, learn the phuck to code, and do it yourself. I'd love to see you try. I mean, just about any other coder here who wanted to work on it would need to learn ALOT more about OpenGL to make it anymore than what it is now. You learning the basics of C wouldn't add too much time to it. So go, go play with your little project and watch it fall apart.
------------------ -- "Do or do not. There is no try." -Yoda
(This message has been edited by Dave Lesovoy (edited 06-09-2000).)
Quote
Originally posted by Dave Lesovoy:
**
I downloaded kberg's stuff, and it's not that bad. I disagree with Massive EVMP, but I belive and Arena-Stlye EVMP WOULD be possible and sucessful. If kberg changed his project to this, he would likely meet with success.
------------------ "I never use shampoo with milk or eggs. These are imperialist ideas" - Libyan leader Muammar el-Qaddafi
AIM/AOL-Nador26
Yahoo Messenger-OctoberFost
(url="http://"http://www.geocities.com/octoberfost")http://www.geocities.com/octoberfost(/url)
(url="http://"http://www.geocities.com/octoberfost/chatroom.html")Unoffical EV/O Chatroom(/url)
Eh? You can download something from kberg? I'd love to see this. Where is it?
If you want something vaguely resembling 3D EV, check out (url="http://"http://www.parsec.org")www.parsec.org(/url). They're taking their time, but when its finished it looks like it should be pretty good.
And best of all, it's free!
------- Seph
------------------ "Only two things are infinite -- the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein
**Eh? You can download something from kberg? I'd love to see this. Where is it?
Go to his webiste and click on downloads. There should be something called "Build 9". Download that.
yea, parsec is cool but it is a different kind of game in relation to EV. It will be a spaceship shoot em up, kinda lika an EV Arena but 3D and played in the Net.
------------------ CaptainG3 ICQ:31162561 AIM:CaptnG3
(quote)Originally posted by OctoberFost: **(QUOTE) Go to his webiste and click on downloads. There should be something called "Build 9". Download that. **(/quote)
It's Build 12 now, actually.
------------------ Brooklyn. Where the weak are killed and eaten.
AIM: obormot345
Actually it's up to build 16 now
Seeing as how these aren't public builds, here's the latest vers you CAN DL... (url="http://"http://cr441186-a.lngly1.bc.wave.home.com/~karl/Downloads/Build_12.sit.hqx")http://cr441186-a.ln...uild_12.sit.hqx(/url)
Originally posted by Dave Lesovoy: **Spoken like a true newbie. Ambrosia is absolutely not going to make an EV 3D, and neither is anyone else. This has been mentioned hundreds of times, and its obvious you didn't go look at the mentioned posts before posting this. Now I can make a fool out of you:)
Who ever said anything about a 3D EVMP?? I just mentioned that those were the two things most EV players wanted. And it looks like you're having trouble understanding what i'm saying. I never said that ambrosia would make it. I'm also not asking for something like a true EV. And a 3D EV Arena wouldn't be that hard either. That's almost what exobattle is! I'm just saying someone could make a 3D EV Flight Sim(not an adventure rpg like EV). kberg's EVMP doesn't use EV's graphics(yet) and he probably could make custom graphics(right?). It wouldn't have to be exactly like EV or have EV in it's name. It still would be pretty much be an EV.
Originally posted by J.Ace21: **kberg's EVMP doesn't use EV's graphics(yet) and he probably could make custom graphics(right?) **
Heh, doesn't use EV's graphics(anymore)...
(This message has been edited by kberg (edited 06-10-2000).)
If you chose (for whatever reason) to hide your work, could you at least keep us informed about the new features? Either here or at your homepage (latest "news" from March :-))
- Marko
Hey, kberg, I AM still doing interface artowrk, right? Email me when you need some (when its far enough in development). It supports alpha channels, correct?
col22@earthlink.net
Originally posted by J.Ace21: **And a 3D EV Arena wouldn't be that hard either. **
If its so easy, do it yourself.
I ranted about EVMP as well because it seemed like the right time to do so.
Apparently everything about how hard it would be to make a EV3D went right past that little brain of yours.
Not that I am against it. I'd love to see EV3D or EVMP. The chances of it being related to EV, however, would be minimal.
Originally posted by Dave Lesovoy: **If its so easy, do it yourself.
Sorry. I see your poing but still a simple Arena is what Exobattle is. and the ships are in 3Dmodel format.. Like i said. A simple Arena type flight sim with only fighters. So you don't really have to worry about giving your escorts orders. Using Exobattle as a skeletone. I'm not a programmer myself. And maybe it could be harder than i think but if someone well versed in C++ comes around...