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Originally posted by JediBrass: **Ok, this may seem way off topic, but I just have to know why this use of "their" seems so amazing. Using "there" and 'their" is something one learns in elementary school, and the way you people (those amazed by the existance of "their") write, it doesn't seem like you're in elementary school, it seems like you people are at least in 8th grade or up. So . . . what gives?
Oh, and about Firefights, I use guided weapons and let my friendlies do the bulk of the work. I stay out of the hottest areas, and mop up any enemies that come for me (like Voinian fighters and Frigates) and those that I can engage safely (like one Voinian Frigate after I've cleared the surrounding fighters). If I have to get involved (like in the destroy the Dreadnought mission when my escorts eventually run off leaving me with the Dreadought to face alone), I make sure I'm in the position to get away QUICKLY, like I make sure I have an afterburner to burn my arse out of there if the Dreadnought starts getting lucky with neutron cannons/turrets, and rockets. Or, if theres a swarm of fighters chasing you AND there's a nasty capital ship like a Dreadnoght attacking you to, use the fighters as a screen, b/c the big Capital ship will stil try and destroy you even if its own fighters get in the way. As I explained to Skyblade in another thread, I did this alot in an old EV plug called Star Wars: Special Edition (no this is NOT SW2! This plug is older and done by someone else).
Tschus (that's German for 'Bye'), Jedibrass
**
I've always had a bad use of the word "there." I'm stilling working on fixing that and my stupidity.
I tried out your little strategy...It worked very well.
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I just read the thing on the Railgun and none of you people seems to see how STUPID a weapon that is! It took SO many men to load and it was hardly mobiel, once it had its trajectory, it couldn't change. Plus reloading time took FOREVER. it was basically as sign of Hitlers massive ego. On anothe note, THANK God that Hitler took direct control over the Luftwafe, and the Bundesware, basically the whole gosh darn German military, b/c Hitler had some BRILLIANT field commanders and generals (look at Rommel), and b/c he eventually stopped letting them do what they needed to do to win, he went over them, and Hitler sucked at it. So we have the devil incarnate (Hitler) himself to thank for being able to beat him. B/c once Hitler took control, the whole German advantage of technology and personnel disipline wnet to pot once all that was being put to poor strategic use. Oh, and the Panther tank is better known about the world as the Panzer (German for Panther). just giving ya'll an FYI there.
Cheers, jedibrass
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oops, I just saw that the above post by me could seem insulting. I just want to say in relation to it that, "No offense intended."
-jedibrass
(quote)Originally posted by JediBrass: **I just read the thing on the Railgun and none of you people seems to see how STUPID a weapon that is! It took SO many men to load and it was hardly mobiel, once it had its trajectory, it couldn't change. Plus reloading time took FOREVER. it was basically as sign of Hitlers massive ego. On anothe note, THANK God that Hitler took direct control over the Luftwafe, and the Bundesware, basically the whole gosh darn German military, b/c Hitler had some BRILLIANT field commanders and generals (look at Rommel), and b/c he eventually stopped letting them do what they needed to do to win, he went over them, and Hitler sucked at it. So we have the devil incarnate (Hitler) himself to thank for being able to beat him. B/c once Hitler took control, the whole German advantage of technology and personnel disipline wnet to pot once all that was being put to poor strategic use. Oh, and the Panther tank is better known about the world as the Panzer (German for Panther). just giving ya'll an FYI there.:)
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What size was the Railgun's cannon?
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Originally posted by Captain Carnotaur: **What size was the Railgun's cannon?
40 inches...In other words, very big.
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Hmm... a few notes I'll add in here...
First off, all the WW2 talk is cool, one can learn much from a simple web board.
Second, I always thought a railgun was a very high velocity chaingun. I remember, back in Metal Gear Solid for Playstation, the boss, I think his name was Metal Gear Rex or something, it tels you it has a railgun on it. When you then go to fight the guy, it has a high velocity machine gun, and two rocket launchers. I know the rocket launchers weren't the railgun, thus leaving the machine gun. Now I hear you guys talking about the railgun being unbelievably big and slow to reload, and all this stuff, I wonder, was Konami wrong? Or am I just mixed up?
Third, where can I get these Close Combat games? Does Download.com have the demos? They sound fun!
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I've heard Railgun used in many different circumstances, and most of them had what a Railgun is quite wrong. ' BTW, let's see:
40 divided by 12 = 3.3
Hmmmm... The Railgun had a 3.3 foot wide gun. Wow, that's big.
Originally posted by Captain Carnotaur: **I've heard Railgun used in many different circumstances, and most of them had what a Railgun is quite wrong. ' BTW, let's see:
Yeap...Over three feet. My older brother was telling me how cleaning out the barrel wasn't a problem, since it was so huge. The Railgun in itself was really madness...
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The railgun was called the railgun, b/c it was on railroad tracks, basically a BIG gun on wheels. In supporting itself, the barrel had to be supported by cables much like the Golden Gate bridge is. And the Tiger AND Pazer tanks were hell to the Allies and their Sherman tanks, the only thing that could take them out were bazooka armed infantry squads who knocked the tracks off the tank with the bazooka then a brave infantry man would dash up to the tank, open the commander's turret door, spray fire into the tank (to keep the Germans from firing back and to kill a few), drop a live grenade in and run away fast before the grenade went off (which pierced the gas tank most likely and set off the fuel AND set off the ammo in the tank) and destroyed the tank and several yards out from it.
Another way the Allies took out the Pazers and Tigers was by the use of "tank killers" which were anti-tank planes with armor piercing weapons that ripped apart tanks like a ten year old kid opening his birthday presents does to the wrappings. Also, the Russians used a T-?(something or other) tank that was able to take out the Panzers and Tigers on its own.
Originally posted by JediBrass: **Also, the Russians used a T-?(something or other) **
I think the tank you're looking for is the T-34? Excellent tank...Even the Germans were jealous of it. Thanks for your post...I found it very interesting, though I had read about it before. Please share anymore of your World War II info!
Originally posted by JediBrass: **The railgun was called the railgun, b/c it was on railroad tracks, basically a BIG gun on wheels. In supporting itself, the barrel had to be supported by cables much like the Golden Gate bridge is. And the Tiger AND Pazer tanks were hell to the Allies and their Sherman tanks, the only thing that could take them out were bazooka armed infantry squads who knocked the tracks off the tank with the bazooka then a brave infantry man would dash up to the tank, open the commander's turret door, spray fire into the tank (to keep the Germans from firing back and to kill a few), drop a live grenade in and run away fast before the grenade went off (which pierced the gas tank most likely and set off the fuel AND set off the ammo in the tank) and destroyed the tank and several yards out from it.
Another way the Allies took out the Pazers and Tigers was by the use of "tank killers" which were anti-tank planes with armor piercing weapons that ripped apart tanks like a ten year old kid opening his birthday presents does to the wrappings. Also, the Russians used a T-?(something or other) tank that was able to take out the Panzers and Tigers on its own. **
But couldn't the Allies just fire the Shermans gun at the tank treds instead of using bazookas to do it for them?
Originally posted by Captain Carnotaur: **But couldn't the Allies just fire the Shermans gun at the tank treds instead of using bazookas to do it for them?
Yes, that was often the only thing to do. The bazooka could sometimes knock out a Tiger if the shot hit around the center of the tracks. The Sherman's cannon, however, was not as powerful as the bazooka in terms of piercing power, so this left them with either being destroyed or get one lucky shot that penetrated the relatively thin armor around the tracks (Only thin when compaired to the rest of the armor on the Tiger) Since the Tiger could sometimes be vulnerable at the side, they often sat in the middile of a road, with hedgegrowth on either side of them to protect the sides, so that the front of the Tiger was the only part of the tank being exposed.
Man, gotta love that bazooka. Actually the bazooka turned the tide of the ground war, b/c before the Germans were winning using the Tigers and Panzers, and the German troops were well trained and deadly with their Mauser semi-auto, strip clip rifles (those babies are great weapons even today). But what gave the Allies some footing in ther personel arms arena was the development of the BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle), the Tommy Gun (those guns you see gangsters using in old B&W; films set during Prohibition) was a WWI weapon, and wasn't all that popular with the US military anyway. But the allies put out POS guns as well as excellent ones. One example is the Sho-ho (or something like that) which was a French gun, it was crud from the beginning, and most Allied soldiers hated it. Another no-so-good gun was the British Sten gun, made from stamped metal. But the Sten was better than the French gun.
BTW, I get all my WW2 info from watching the History Channel and from paying attention in my College US History class which I took 2 years back when I was a high school freshman.
Cheers, Jedibrass
Originally posted by JediBrass: **Man, gotta love that bazooka. Actually the bazooka turned the tide of the ground war, b/c before the Germans were winning using the Tigers and Panzers, and the German troops were well trained and deadly with their Mauser semi-auto, strip clip rifles (those babies are great weapons even today). But what gave the Allies some footing in ther personel arms arena was the development of the BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle), the Tommy Gun (those guns you see gangsters using in old B &W; films set during Prohibition) was a WWI weapon, and wasn't all that popular with the US military anyway. But the allies put out POS guns as well as excellent ones. One example is the Sho-ho (or something like that) which was a French gun, it was crud from the beginning, and most Allied soldiers hated it. Another no-so-good gun was the British Sten gun, made from stamped metal. But the Sten was better than the French gun.
Now wait a minute...The Sten wasn't so bad! In fact, as crude as it was, it was an extrememly successful sub-machine gun, had a formidable rate of fire, and was easy to clean / take apart. Another gun that won success and favor with US troops was the Grease Gun. Once again, it was really crude, but was a small, handy weapon. (Even though it only had the range of a modern day uzi) As for the BAR, it has always been one of my favorite guns. Even in the Close Combat games, you can always depend on the BAR rifle teams...They get the job done.
The Bazooka? One awesome weapon! I like the fact that since it was so incredibly successful, even the Germans went and designed their own similar weapons. The Bazooka's revial, the "Panzerfaust," was sometimes said to be a deadlier weapon then the bazooka, but its range was limited. Another gun (artillery) I really like is the "Long Tom."
Originally posted by Captain Skyblade: Now wait a minute...The Sten wasn't so bad! In fact, as crude as it was, it was an extrememly successful sub-machine gun, had a formidable rate of fire, and was easy to clean / take apart. Another gun that won success and favor with US troops was the Grease Gun. Once again, it was really crude, but was a small, handy weapon.
I never said that. I know that the Sten was a crude weapon thats why I said it was in the not-so-good category. I know that the Sten was easy to clean and take apart and its fire rate was formidable, it wasn't really that bad. But it WAS crude. I guess thats what I was trying to say.
Originally posted by JediBrass: **I never said that. I know that the Sten was a crude weapon thats why I said it was in the not-so-good category. I know that the Sten was easy to clean and take apart and its fire rate was formidable, it wasn't really that bad. But it WAS crude. I guess thats what I was trying to say.
Yeah, sorry if I came across wrong there...I wasn't saying you thought the Sten was bad. Anyway, even if it was an easy-to-make weapon, I think it was pretty awesome-looking, especially the varient that had the magazine extending out of the side.
Originally posted by Captain Skyblade: **Yeah, sorry if I came across wrong there...I wasn't saying you thought the Sten was bad. Anyway, even if it was an easy-to-make weapon, I think it was pretty awesome-looking, especially the varient that had the magazine extending out of the side.
~Captain Skyblade**
Gotta agree with you there, the Sten does look cool with the side magazine. But does anyone realize how much the Springfield semi-auto, strip clip was? I mean, that was the main infantry weapon of the Allies (most especially the U.S.). The soldiers used them through thick and thin and the Springfields stood the test of war. Some day I'd like to get my hands on one. It'd make a nice gun to have on display (non fireable if I did that) and a nice rifle for hunting of target shooting.
~Jedibrass
Originally posted by JediBrass: **Gotta agree with you there, the Sten does look cool with the side magazine. But does anyone realize how much the Springfield semi-auto, strip clip was? I mean, that was the main infantry weapon of the Allies (most especially the U.S.). The soldiers used them through thick and thin and the Springfields stood the test of war. Some day I'd like to get my hands on one. It'd make a nice gun to have on display (non fireable if I did that) and a nice rifle for hunting of target shooting.
Actually, by World War II, the Springfield was slowly being replaced by the M1 Gerrand. In the Pacific, the Springfield was used more widely, where it was found suitable for jungle combat. In Europe, however, seeing a Springfield was becoming a rare site, (After all, they were World War I weapons...) and the M1 Gerrand and Carbine were the standard firearm. I'd like a Sten, though. I have a friend who has a Luger...It is really awesome.
Originally posted by Captain Skyblade: **Actually, by World War II, the Springfield was slowly being replaced by the M1 Gerrand. In the Pacific, the Springfield was used more widely, where it was found suitable for jungle combat. In Europe, however, seeing a Springfield was becoming a rare site, (After all, they were World War I weapons...) and the M1 Gerrand and Carbine were the standard firearm. I'd like a Sten, though.:) I have a friend who has a Luger...It is really awesome.
Yeah, the M1 is a really cool weapon, actually I think you can buy one from the government for about $300 or $500. But I'm not sure about that. Now, was the Luger the German's standard firearm in WW2? I can't remember the name but the Luger sounds correct. And firearms are really cool, but arn't you guys forgetting about hand grenades and bayonets? I forgot about how important they were till I mentioned they're use in destroying tanks by using the bazooka squad. Hey, now thats an idea! Make a gredade kind of weapon for EVO!! Sort of like a space bomb but with a little less power and its launched forward and detonates when ever it's "timer" runs out or it hits the target. I can do the development in 10 minutes if I have the graphics!! Ah well, the gredade isn't a kind of weapon I'm putting in my plug; shield draining rockets, plasma missles, disruptor type lasers, plasma cannons, gattling lasers and rail-machine guns (the EVO meaning of Rail Gun, not the real world meaning). Oh, well, first I have to do the systems.