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Originally posted by UE Patriot (at home): The UE is better.
Maybe in the real game, but not in my plug!
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UE dominates in my opinion... especially in the later half when they have three races to deal with!!
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Originally posted by Lonevoinian: Uhh... No. Chens is between them. Oh, about the Emalgha liberating it, if they were trying to liberate it, why did they wipe out all life on the planet. _ INCLUDING THE SLAVES THERE?_ If you ask me, the Emalgha are just as destructive as the Voinians.
Best Planets Emalgha, they actually liberated a planet by themselves oh so many years ago, none of the other races did that! Best Weapons Humans Best Ships Emalgha, they look the best. Best Cause Emalgha/Hinwar/Human, there is just something attractive about freedom, don't you think? Best Sandwich Voinian, have you ever had their Borb Burger? Best Drink Human, Saalan Brand ring a bell?
By the way, LV, if Vionan is so peaceful why did they eliminate the Irid? Who's the Irid you ask? I'll tell you! Go to the system right by the liberated Voinans, called Iri and read the planet text, I think that was very uncalled for. Most races call what you did there Genocide!!!!!!!
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Since United Earth ships were made specificaly to overpower Voinian ships they are definetly the prevailing power in a space fight. However; you could argue to whether which side uses their powers to the best of their ability. For example, military and naval strategy and tactics. I would have to say after playing ROTV I think the Voinians are much more experienced when it comes to producing complex and thought-out strategies. That is just my opinion though. As for best planets, I would say UE since they hold most of the outifits I use. And cause? Well... You decide. On one hand the Voinians just want to dominate everyone while UE just hates the Voinians and would like to make peace with every other race if possible. I prefer killing ever stinkin' race that doesn't bow to the Voinians
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Originally posted by UE Crusader: **Easy.
Best weapons: United Earth. They have the rocket just as the Voinians do, and have the added advantage of the guided Hunter Missile, which can inflict damage upon the enemy from a distance the standard rocket can't hope to reach. The Voinian Rocket Turret isn't enough to offset this. Neutron tech shot for shot is better than blaze, but its slow to fire and takes up a LOT of tonnage.
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Ick, UE weapons suck. The worst in the game. However, the voinians make a close second. Blaze is terrible. And if you know how to angle yourself neutron cannons can be devestating. Dont get them in small ships for obvious reasons.
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UE weapons suck against creacent ships, but not againstthe Voinians.
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(This message has been edited by Titan (edited 12-18-2000).)
Why do people keep on comparing the V. Cruiser to the UE Cruiser. The UE cruiser can clearly kick the V. cruiser's ass but the Voinians have a better ship, the dreadnought. Sure the dreadnought was only a one time thing, but have you seen a single UE cruiser in action (other than yours). In terms of planets I think its a give a take kind of thing. You have to decide whether you like planets with high production or planets that look nice. At the voinian border most of the systems have asteriods rendering hunters useless and the few that get through dont do much damage. I think its generally agreed that ass a whole blazes turrets are not that good. And sure the hewman cause is better but think about it, freedom for all, no corruption, and equal opportunity kinda starts to get corny and unrealistic.
(This message has been edited by widowmaker (edited 12-18-2000).)
Why did the UE have war ships in the first place? It says in the manael that the humans fought back as soon as they were atacked they couldn't have done this if they hadn't had war ships to start with. If they were so good and peaceful why did they have war ships? I think that the UE would have enslaved primitive races too if thay'ed had the chance.
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(This message has been edited by The Crimson Dagger (edited 12-18-2000).)
I think they created the Destroyers and Fighters after they discovered the hostile Voinian race. Then later came Cruisers and Carriers. Or at least that is my idea.
Jive wrote a story about the Voinian and UE encounter in the EV:O Chronicles. (url="http://"http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/cgi-bin/ubb/newsdisplay.cgi?action=topics&number;=20&forum;=*EV/EVO+chronicles&DaysPrune;=25&article;=000041&startpoint;=20")Check out for the first four chapters here.(/url) The second ones are on the other page of chronicles (Battle of Sol ch. 5-8)
Personally I think the Renegades are the best.
Planets: they own very few planets but they are so rich that they can fund a huge fleet to push back the U.E.
Weapons: it depends what they are used for. The renegades have the needle missile which is fast and good for disabling traders. They also have the blaze weapons from the UE which I don't like.
Ships: The turncoat is a pretty good ship when used in numbers. It is fast and highly upgradable. The helian is a good ship because it can be used as many different kinds of things including fighting and trading. The worst ship in the game is the krait. They are basically pieces of garabage that you throw at the enemy to distract them. The krait bay weakens the turncoat by taking up mass.
Cause: The renegade cause is clearly the best. They broke away from the UE because the UE was boring. The renegades wanted adventure and if you don't call blockade running, false oaths, and lawless chaos an adventure I don't know what is.
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The Renegades ships and outfits are old and very useless against most ships. The only thing they are good for are stopping slow and harmless Freighters and Shuttles. A few Turncoats can become a nuissance but they are quickly silenced by United Earth. The Crescent Renegades are much better than those from UE.
Originally posted by ~Patton: **By the way, LV, if Vionan is so peaceful why did they eliminate the Irid? Who's the Irid you ask? I'll tell you! Go to the system right by the liberated Voinans, called Iri and read the planet text, I think that was very uncalled for. Most races call what you did there Genocide!!!!!!!
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I never said the Vionans were peaceful. It was sad that they destroyed Iri but the Voinian Empire couldn't stop them. They just marched on in and coverd the planet with gas.
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It deppens on how you look at it. If you like killing concering and getting rich the Voinians are your kind of guys. If trading helping other races and tings like that are what you like then you should join the UE.
(This message has been edited by The Crimson Dagger (edited 12-19-2000).)
And every race the Voinians conqured was to do a mesage pod incident too... Sure...
The Voinians are just a greedy, primitive, decayed bunch of Alines bent on the dream of Universal Domination they will never have.
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Hehe, have you played EVO Plus, Lone? I thought that pod story sounded kinda familiar...
Anyway, the UE rushed Destroyers and Fighters into mass production when the Voinians attacked, but before that, the Fighter and Destroyer were only prototypes. Then Carriers were designed to rush the all-important fighters into the fray. The Cruiser was Anna Balashova's latest design, and it can take out not one, but (b)two(b) Voinian Cruisers on it's own. But it rarely appears. Destroyers vs. Frigates. Destroyers win 100% of the time. Period. UEFs vs. VHFs. UE Fighters win this almost all the time, the VHF is too slow. Carrier vs. Cruiser. Carrier wins 90% of the time. I guess the UE has better ships.
Weapons? Well, blaze cannons have short range and are innacurate, but UE ships are usually close enough so that that doesn't matter. Then the intense rate of fire and good damage takes over. Neutron blasts are slow-firing and slow-moving (typical Voinian :D) but they pack one hell of a punch. Rocket Turrets take up too much space, and all though they do good damage they don't hit very often. Hunters take up lotsa space too, but they do good damage and are guided. Overall, gotta say that the UE has better weapons.
Cause? Well now, that's a toughie...
Planets? The UE has enough resources to support it's defences and occasional attacks. Ditto for Voinians. Tie game.
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Originally posted by Samurai: **Hehe, have you played EVO Plus, Lone?;) I thought that pod story sounded kinda familiar... **
What's that? I've never played it. And where does my pod thing come in?
Originally posted by 21st Century Digital Boy: **And every race the Voinians conqured was to do a mesage pod incident too... Sure... **
No. The Hinwar were an ally to Borb the First but then they attacked the Voinians in the middle of the battle of Emalgha. The Emalgha were the only race the Voinians counquerd willingly. It was right in the middle of a large famine and the Emalgha had more food then they knew what to do with. The Voinians asked if the Emalgha would work out a trade treaty but the Emalgha said no and stoned the Voinian diplomat. Well, thousands of Voinians were dieing every day of starvation and the Voinians were outraged at having their diplomat killed so they beat up the Emalgha and made them slaves.
(This message has been edited by Lonevoinian (edited 12-19-2000).)
Did you make this up? If not where did you find it?
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Originally posted by Samurai: **Hehe, have you played EVO Plus, Lone?;) I thought that pod story sounded kinda familiar...
Anyway, the UE rushed Destroyers and Fighters into mass production when the Voinians attacked, but before that, the Fighter and Destroyer were only prototypes. Then Carriers were designed to rush the all-important fighters into the fray. The Cruiser was Anna Balashova's latest design, and it can take out not one, but two Voinian Cruisers on it's own. But it rarely appears. Destroyers vs. Frigates. Destroyers win 100% of the time. Period. UEFs vs. VHFs. UE Fighters win this almost all the time, the VHF is too slow. Carrier vs. Cruiser. Carrier wins 90% of the time. I guess the UE has better ships.
Planets? The UE has enough resources to support it's defences and occasional attacks. Ditto for Voinians. **
Hold on a second! Let's look at this again.
The Cruiser was Anna Balashova's latest design, and it can take out not one, but two Voinian Cruisers on it's own.