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I'm British(English to be exact) and i hate the europian union it sucks! Were british and were not Europian we have our royal family that the americans seem to love and we have our pound that is amazingly strong why do we need to join to Europe? We don't! If we need trade we can trade with the americans.
Oh and by the way WE were in the Korien war aswell we had a few thousand troops out ther and our Navy lead the attack so don't forget about us.
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Originally posted by OctoberFost: **Emalgha=Hungary? This is the one I'm not sure about. They represent some member of the Soviet Bloc that rebeled aginst communist control. Hungary is my best guess, but their revolt failed. The Emalgha's revolt seems to have been slightly more succesful..
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Actually, I think the Hinwar are closer to Hungary. The Emalgha might be something like Turkey or something, since they seem like they've pretty much always been independent. That seems to fit the plot better.
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Hey Peter, I live in Norwich. Cool huh?
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Originally posted by Burning cow: **Were british and were not Europian we have our royal family that the americans seem to love and we have our pound that is amazingly strong why do we need to join to Europe? **
OMG! You actually like the royal family!! You support the monarchy?! The queen and her 'crew' are nothing but a bunch of inbred money grabbing right wing facists. I cant wait till the Queen Mum pops her clogs.
Originally posted by Burning cow: **I'm British(English to be exact) and i hate the europian union it sucks! Were british and were not Europian we have our royal family that the americans seem to love and we have our pound that is amazingly strong why do we need to join to Europe? We don't! If we need trade we can trade with the americans.
I'm Irish, I'm also European, hate to break it to you but because you are part of the area constituted as as Europe and a part of the EU, you are European, What you're sayinbg is like a Brazilian saying that they are Brazilian but that they aren't a Southern American.
Never mind why you need to join Europe, you DID join Europe back in the 70's. You do nead Europe for trade, otherwise you economy would fall apart, you'd also not have many choices for places to go on holiday. I'm sure there are loads of economic reasons etc. but I'm not an economist so I won't go into that.
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Originally posted by CelticStarbase: **I'm Irish, I'm also European, hate to break it to you but because you are part of the area constituted as as Europe and a part of the EU, you are European, What you're sayinbg is like a Brazilian saying that they are Brazilian but that they aren't a Southern American.
Never mind why you need to join Europe, you DID join Europe back in the 70's. You do nead Europe for trade, otherwise you economy would fall apart, you'd also not have many choices for places to go on holiday. I'm sure there are loads of economic reasons etc. but I'm not an economist so I won't go into that. **
Well I'm British and I'm also European and I'd just like to say, way to go, Celtic. The sooner these people realise that the 'Empire' or 'Commonwealth' is as obsolete as the 'special relationship', the better. Why should those ex-colonies give a damn after we made our bed back in the seventies and they ended up do so much better than us, anyway. God, the whole debate in Britain (or rather, the absolute lack of any real debate) is so depressing.
Originally posted by Alan: **Well I'm British and I'm also European and I'd just like to say, way to go, Celtic. The sooner these people realise that the 'Empire' or 'Commonwealth' is as obsolete as the 'special relationship', the better. Why should those ex-colonies give a damn after we made our bed back in the seventies and they ended up do so much better than us, anyway. God, the whole debate in Britain (or rather, the absolute lack of any real debate) is so depressing.
We made our bed back? Anyway, it's so sad from an outsiders point of view when we look in on Britain how they say that Europe is bad but don't give any reasons for this assertion.
Originally posted by the Necromicon: **Hey Peter, I live in Norwich. Cool huh? <IMG SRC="http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/webboard/smile.gif" HEIGHT="15" WIDTH="15"> **
wait a second.....OH MY GOSH!!!!!! you just told me where elves come from!!!!! j/k already, settle down!
anyway, i just thought of something semi-related to this post..... i find it fascinating all the off topics we get onto, and all the argruments of which race has best ships, etc.... well what i thought of was at least we don't argue about which human race is best....not too often at least.
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Originally posted by Peter Cartwright: **If the Voinians seem more hidebound and bureaucratic than United Earth in particular, this is more a side-effect of communications: the Voinians have ftl (ie. instantaneous) communications, while all UE fleet messages are carried by ship, so messages and orders can take a week or more to go to and from command at Luna. This, of course, is an advantage for the Voinians, somewhat counteracted by the freedom it gives to regional UE commanders (eg. d'Erlon). The entire Voinian fleet is being directed by some fragmented committee on Borb station, while the UE navy acts with a little more intelligence.
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Just thought I'd point out that ftl doesn't necissarily imply instantaneous. For it to be instantaneous, it would have to be going at the speed of light squared, which would also make it omnipresent (you'd have to encrypt it pretty well when every receiver in the universe picks it up). Also, because it would only be omnipresent for one moment in time, it would be impossible to observe. More likely the ftl messages are just really fast.
IF THIS THE UNIVERSAL REPERSENTATION OF THE WORLD, THEN WHERE THE IS CHINA???????????? CHINA PLAYED A CRITICAL PART OF KEEPING TWO SUPERPOWERS APART, AND IS THE SECOND LARGEST ECONOMY, THE #1 POPULATED COUNTRY, THE 3RD LARGEST COUNTRY, AND THE 3RD LARGEST NUCLEAR ARSENAL. THEY MANAGED TO STEAL NUCLEAR SECERTS AND OTHER MILITARY INFO MANY TIMES, THAT IT SELF IS SOMETHING TO SNUB AT THE USA ABOUT. THE RUSSIAN MILITARY IS CRAP NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDERPAID AND BARELY TRAINED, AND CHINA NOW HAS THE LARGEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD, AND WHERE THE HELL ARE THE ASIAN AND CHINESE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD, DON'T LET THE REST OF THE WORLD PUSH YOU LIKE THIS
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Originally posted by zhouj: ** AND WHERE THE HELL ARE THE ASIAN AND CHINESE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD, DON'T LET THE REST OF THE WORLD PUSH YOU LIKE THIS
Hey, my dad's from India and my mom's from Bangladesh, but I live in Mississippi and was born in Iowa. I (I'm not speaking for the other Asians who must be somewhere on this board) agree with you about China...but there have been posts in this topic about the Middle East, and that was in Asia last time I checked. So were Korea and Vietnam, which were covered in this topic also. Anyway, other parts of Asia (like South Asia) aren't really that important economically.
True, lots of people live there, but these countries, i.e. India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, etc. are mostly self-contained and don't really muck around with world politics a lot any more, since the 40s, when they gained independence. Actually, then, some Indians went to Germany and joined Hitler against the British whom they hated, and other Indians, who were Marxists, became real chummy with the Soviets. Both of those choices were pretty bad, so these countries don't really risk this kind of thing any more (except in 1970 and 1971, when in Bangladesh's war for independence, the US sent a few ships over against the Bangladeshi rebels, and the Soviets sent troops over on behalf of the Indians and Bangladeshi, but even then, the South Asian countries were just pawns for the bigger Cold War powers). The President of the US just visits these countries every now and then, sends a few chunks of money their way to help them recover from floods, avalanches, etc., and then goes back to more "important" matters.
Anyway, what I mean to say is that some parts of Asia that are more politically and economically important are represented here, and the other parts of Asia are a lot more secluded from the rest of the world (relatively speaking). I understand what you're saying about China, though.
(quote)Originally posted by CelticStarbase: **We made our bed back? **(/quote)
As in, 'You've made your bed, now go and lie in it'. Sorry, it was late, I was tired etc.
**Anyway, it's so sad from an outsiders point of view when we look in on Britain how they say that Europe is bad but don't give any reasons for this assertion. **(/QUOTE)
Or the reasons that they give are just totally nonsensical to the point that it's almost impossible to argue with them. I have this more and more often when I return (for Christmas, New Year whatever) and talk with friends/family. The saddest thing personally speaking, is that I feel more and more like an outsider whenever the subject comes up. I dunno, one day they'll grow up.
Well, you hope they'll grow up......
Originally posted by zhouj: **IF THIS THE UNIVERSAL REPERSENTATION OF THE WORLD, THEN WHERE THE IS CHINA???????????? **
This response was so ignorant, it's funny. First of all, find the "Caps Lock" key on your keyboard, and turn it off. Secondly, look at the title- "EVO: Cold War Satire?" Where does it say "universal repersentation (sic) of the world"? Oh, and your ethnocentricity is humorous, too. You don't care about South America, or Africa, but when someone messes with China...
** CHINA PLAYED A CRITICAL PART OF KEEPING TWO SUPERPOWERS APART, AND IS THE SECOND LARGEST ECONOMY, THE #1 POPULATED COUNTRY, THE 3RD LARGEST COUNTRY, AND THE 3RD LARGEST NUCLEAR**
Alright you just a plain racist b*tch.China was an important of the Cold War. China invented GUNPOWDER. Without that there would be no missles, rockets, or guns or even the Cold War you fool. They also happened to invent the rocket,gun, and cannon. So what you're saying is that China invented the preceding things which without them, the cold war probably would have been as intense that China can't develop its own technology. For your information the only scienctist America produced is Robert Opphemier. THINK, STUPID??????? Also by stealing US secrets, China penetrated a highly classified security network and defeated the US counterintelligence division of the CIA and NSA.
Hey OF, I guess this topic had to surface again, eh?
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Originally posted by Ubermann: **Hey OF, I guess this topic had to surface again, eh? **
yep :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by !Simon: **We sure are pushing Asian and Chinese people! Even though Chinese people ARE Asian, we prefer to push them seperately! Especially considering they have very little to do with the topic, i.e. the Cold War, and EVO's similarities to it. Try and think BEFORE you talk. No one was insulting China, or the rest of Asia, or Africa, or South America, or Australia, or Canada, or Mexico, or anywhere else. As superior as I'm sure every poster's motherland is, no one else really tried to prove that theirs was better than any where else... once again, think BEFORE talking.
I wouldn't ridicule zhouj like you did, being the mild-mannered guy I am, but I really don't agree with what he's saying (see my earlier post). He is, to some extent, right about China, though.
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This topic should probably be moved to Banter and Brawl as it's gone way off-course.
(quote)Originally posted by zhouj: **Alright you just a plain racist b*tch.China was an important of the Cold War. **(QUOTE) I thought I said to think BEFORE you type. Never did I say there was anything wrong with China. Never did I say there was anything wrong with the Chinese. Multiple times I said there was something wrong with YOU. That makes me racist? Fine, then, I'm racist against "zhouj"s. And it wasn't that important.
(QUOTE) ** China invented GUNPOWDER. Without that there would be no missles, rockets, or guns or (/quote) **
China used their gunpowder for fireworks. Europe developed the use of gunpowder in weapons. Without China's invention, there would still be missiles, rockets, and guns. And even if that statement were true, that wouldn't make them an important part. The Cold War might have still existed without those weapons (it was, after all, a COLD war). Even if America and the USSR had to throw turnips at each other to wage war, they'd probably do it. And with lots of pro-turnip throwing propaganda, too.
(quote) (b) even the Cold War you fool. They also happened to invent the rocket,gun, and cannon. So what you're saying is that China invented the preceding things which without them, the cold war probably would have been as intense that China can't develop its own technology. For your information the only scienctist America produced is Robert Opphemier. THINK, STUPID??????? (/quote) **
If the point of this was to convince me you don't know what you're talking about, you've done it. First of all "the cold war probably would have been as intense that China can't develope its own technology". Huh? Second, the US has produced many more scientists than Oppenheimer, just that he's probably the most famous military one. Even if they only did produce one scientists, how does that make them less involved with the Cold War? They didn't need to produce the technology, or even use it, they just needed to shake their fists at the USSR in a threatening manner.
(quote) (b) Also by stealing US secrets, China penetrated a highly classified security network and defeated the US counterintelligence division of the CIA and NSA.
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And by begging his genocidal campaign, Hitler rose from a life of mediocrity as an artist and became a tyrannical leader that would eventually threaten the entire world. That's not something to be proud of. And where do you get off, defending China? I said it last time, no one is attacking China- not even me. I'm just attacking your fanaticism and ignorance.