Another Infini-D Question...

Alright, I just completed constructing a blaze cannon remake, a total of twenty-five or so objects. But now, I want to shrink the entire cannon without having to go to each individual object and reduce the size. I've grouped all the objects together using the sequencer, and my question is; will Infini-D allow me to shrink the blaze cannon and its grouped objects at once? If this can be done, how?

The reason I need to make the cannon smaller is that I the model is quite large. I also want to attach the cannon to a turreted version of the weapon.

Thanks.

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once the objects are all linked, you can scale the parent object and it will scale the children as well (at least, it will for some link modes. i know it will for full links)

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Originally posted by nighthawk:
**once the objects are all linked, you can scale the parent object and it will scale the children as well (at least, it will for some link modes. i know it will for full links)

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Bingo! I finally got it to work... I was trying to scale the parent down a different way, but it worked once I used the correct tool. Thanks, I appreciate the help.

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Still using infini-D eh? It's a nice program, but it has big limitations. As you can tell by my screen name, I do a lot of 3d modeling. I'm looking at Inspire 3d and electric image. You may like these. FormZ is also cool, especially if you can get a discount. Still, it's expensive as hell. Though with FormZ, (and EI too) you can be sure there will be awesome mac support.

good luck with the blaze cannon. If you need tips for inifini-D voodoo, feel free to email.

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Originally posted by Splinemodel:
**Still using infini-D eh? It's a nice program, but it has big limitations. As you can tell by my screen name, I do a lot of 3d modeling. I'm looking at Inspire 3d and electric image. You may like these. FormZ is also cool, especially if you can get a discount. Still, it's expensive as hell. Though with FormZ, (and EI too) you can be sure there will be awesome mac support.

good luck with the blaze cannon. If you need tips for inifini-D voodoo, feel free to email.

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Thanks for the info. As for help, I believe I've got the Infini-D ropes in pretty good shape at the moment, but thanks for the offer.

I'm actually shooting for Lightwave soon (or maybe Cinema 4D... It has a much better layout). As soon as I have the few thousand dollars required, it's a go.

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:
**I'm actually shooting for Lightwave soon (or maybe Cinema 4D... It has a much better layout). As soon as I have the few thousand dollars required, it's a go.

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Or you can join up at a Cineversity School. 50 copies of Cinema XL for $500!!. Ahh the joys of public education.

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Originally posted by Splinemodel:
**Still using infini-D eh? It's a nice program, but it has big limitations. As you can tell by my screen name, I do a lot of 3d modeling. I'm looking at Inspire 3d and electric image. You may like these. FormZ is also cool, especially if you can get a discount. Still, it's expensive as hell. Though with FormZ, (and EI too) you can be sure there will be awesome mac support.

good luck with the blaze cannon. If you need tips for inifini-D voodoo, feel free to email.
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I dont know how good is Ispire 3D, but as far as I know Electric Image wasnt the better modeler then even Bryce until the recently reliesed version. And even the latest version is probably OK for modeling some alien stuff (with those NURBS) but not the tech stuff Captain does at the present time. Form Z is known as a solid modeler but also is not really the programme to make techno stuff. So among all your sucgesstions I would support only the Inspire 3D, which is lighter version of LW(?).Ofcourse I saying all this without thinking about the price of this programmes 🙂

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Originally posted by ThorPrime:
**Or you can join up at a Cineversity School. 50 copies of Cinema XL for $500!!. Ahh the joys of public education.

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Heh, now that would be nice...

I'll actually probably shoot for Bryce as my next program, however (even though something like Lightwave would be nice). I've got the money to buy it (atleast according at amazon's price). It's listed at 300 dollars... Anyone know if I can get it cheaper somewhere else?

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Skyblade check eBay. Right now there are 2 copies of Cinema 4D being auctioned off aty dirt cheap prices ( around $400-500 0.

A Spisak

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Originally posted by Draxo:
**Skyblade check eBay. Right now there are 2 copies of Cinema 4D being auctioned off aty dirt cheap prices ( around $400-500 0.

A Spisak

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Are they XL versions? Even if they were, I currently couldn't afford the program. I've been checking at ebay for awhile, however, and you can really get some steals on some excellent applications.

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Captain Skyblade...boy are you lucky I read this topic.

As I learned from others on this board, educational discounts abound.

I got Bryce 5 for about $90 at (url="http://"http://www.journeyed.com/")http://www.journeyed.com/(/url) - it's perfectly legit, legal, authorized, etc. etc. The only difference is that the educational discounts require proof of enrollment in an approved educational institution (high school, junior high even, see the site) and the educational copy of Bryce 5 came with no printed manuals. The were on the CD as PDFs, though.

Go forth and save money! At least, I assume you are a student...

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Originally posted by Weepul 884:
**Captain Skyblade...boy are you lucky I read this topic.

As I learned from others on this board, educational discounts abound.

I got Bryce 5 for about $90 at http://www.journeyed.com/ - it's perfectly legit, legal, authorized, etc. etc. The only difference is that the educational discounts require proof of enrollment in an approved educational institution (high school, junior high even, see the site) and the educational copy of Bryce 5 came with no printed manuals. The were on the CD as PDFs, though.

Go forth and save money! At least, I assume you are a student...

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Actually, I've been very aware of such discounts. I found Bryce 5 for around $80 dollars at some online places with a student discount (and yes, I am a student), but I didn't realize the little catch. You are not permitted to use the programs for commerical use. Since I wish to persue a career as a graphics and web designer, I intend on purchasing the full, commerical versions of programs (and therefore make a profit off graphics).

Thanks for the info, though... I'm sure some of the graphics developers around here could use student discounts on expensive applications.

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I was unaware that restriction applied to Bryce 5.

Nope, I just looked rather thorougly through the license, and I didn't find anything saying I may not use it for commercial uses. I am, however, aware that such a restriction applies to the educational lisence for Lightwave.

Where did you hear that applied to Bryce 5?

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While you're all throwing opinions around, could someone please advise me on apps with point-level control and great compatibility (esp. with POV-Ray)? I have huge plans in store for such a program.......

Of course, if there's a way to create and render animations of multi-jointed mechanical limbs in another app, with better results than in POV, I'd appreciate that, too.

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Originally posted by Weepul 884:
**I was unaware that restriction applied to Bryce 5.

Nope, I just looked rather thorougly through the license, and I didn't find anything saying I may not use it for commercial uses. I am, however, aware that such a restriction applies to the educational lisence for Lightwave.

Where did you hear that applied to Bryce 5?

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If what you say is true, then I'm about to go crazy with excitement. I was just about to waste two hundred extra dollars... 😉

My friend down the street bought Dreamweaver with an educational discount (and was not allowed to use it for commerical purposes), and when I asked him about Bryce 5, he said it also couldn't be used for commercial use. Maybe he got a bit mixed up with another program...

Well then, I'll try ordering Bryce 5 soon. If I need any help using it, I'll know who to ask. 😉 Thanks for all the help.

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Captain Skyblade: I would not put a career on the line only by my word - I'd try to find out what the reality of Bryce 5's academic/commercial status is before buying.

NTi: Have you heard of something called (I think) Meshwork? Is that what you want? It's a simple, shareware (again, I think) mesh-editing program that can work with (yet again, I think) DXFs...sorry for all the ambiguity but I haven't really used it at all.

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Originally posted by Weepul 884:
**Captain Skyblade: I would not put a career on the line only by my word - I'd try to find out what the reality of Bryce 5's academic/commercial status is before buying.

NTi: Have you heard of something called (I think) Meshwork? Is that what you want? It's a simple, shareware (again, I think) mesh-editing program that can work with (yet again, I think) DXFs...sorry for all the ambiguity but I haven't really used it at all.

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I'll probably be buying Bryce today. Even if I do come to find out that the discounted version cannot be used for commerical reasons, I could still use the program for Saber Studios (free graphics). I probably won't be designing any graphics for commercial use anytime soon anyway...

I've heard of Meshwork, but I've never used it. But Bryce sounds more appealing at the moment anyway. 😉

Thanks for all the info, Weep. I appreciate it.

Question about Bryce: Does version 5 have a faster render engine? I heard a number of complaints on how slow Bryce 4's rendering engine was. Is version 5 faster?

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Originally posted by Weepul 884:
**Captain Skyblade: I would not put a career on the line only by my word - I'd try to find out what the reality of Bryce 5's academic/commercial status is before buying.

NTi: Have you heard of something called (I think) Meshwork? Is that what you want? It's a simple, shareware (again, I think) mesh-editing program that can work with (yet again, I think) DXFs...sorry for all the ambiguity but I haven't really used it at all.

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I have an unregistered copy of Meshwork, and I find it somewhat lacking in power; I was hoping for something that could create spline-based surfaces (like PatchDance) and export them as bicubic patches (assuming that even works the way I think it does.....which, considering my luck, is blatantly incorrect).

While waiting for a response last night, I found a program called Amapi 3D which can export to POV-Ray format, has supposedly powerful modeling abilities, and costs around $400, but I don't know its exact specs. Has anyone used it?

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Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:

Question about Bryce: Does version 5 have a faster render engine? I heard a number of
complaints on how slow Bryce 4's rendering engine was. Is version 5 faster?

Not really, and it's much slower if you use many/any of the new features. My three biggest complaints, besides the soon-to-be-apparent speed problems with many of the new features, are that the program is rather buggy still, that most of the new rendering abilities (soft reflections, true ambience, depth of field, etc.) are affected by the raydepth, and look downright grainy at anything less than 144 rays per pixel, and only begin to look pretty smooth at 256 rays per pixel :eek:, and that "true ambience" (a sort-of radiosity) is dependent on the ambient channel, not the diffuse channel as it really should be.

Oh, not to mention that the network renderer has material problems, too. Wait, I just mentioned it... 😉

Its most useful new features are the tree lab, metaballs, and soft shadows. Light-falloff color gradients are neat, too. I would say it's worth the upgrade overall, despite the many shortcomings.

...and if you have a few months free on your computer, you could probably make some absolutely spectacular renders. 😛

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NTi: I have heard about a free version of Amapi available somewhere...I believe on a MacAddict CD...possibly downloadable. Try looking into that.

(This message has been edited by Weepul 884 (edited 09-19-2001).)

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Originally posted by Weepul 884:
**Originally posted by Captain Skyblade:

Question about Bryce: Does version 5 have a faster render engine? I heard a number of
complaints on how slow Bryce 4's rendering engine was. Is version 5 faster?

Not really, and it's much slower if you use many/any of the new features. My three biggest complaints, besides the soon-to-be-apparent speed problems with many of the new features, are that the program is rather buggy still, that most of the new rendering abilities (soft reflections, true ambience, depth of field, etc.) are affected by the raydepth, and look downright grainy at anything less than 144 rays per pixel, and only begin to look pretty smooth at 256 rays per pixel :eek:, and that "true ambience" (a sort-of radiosity) is dependent on the ambient channel, not the diffuse channel as it really should be.

Oh, not to mention that the network renderer has material problems, too. Wait, I just mentioned it... 😉

Its most useful new features are the tree lab, metaballs, and soft shadows. Light-falloff color gradients are neat, too. I would say it's worth the upgrade overall, despite the many shortcomings.

...and if you have a few months free on your computer, you could probably make some absolutely spectacular renders. 😛

**

Hehe... So since Bryce has all these shortcomings, would I be better off not buying it and saving up for something else?

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