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Thought you'd all like to hear how it is going. (This is also for newer members who haven't seen previous posts, but there are some new tidbits for old hands!)
The big news is that the editors will officially be freeware! (w00t!) Although we will accept copies of finished plugins made with them
Tools so far:
Resource editors: the NovaTools are essentially completed (all 23 of them). (except for a couple of new flags for ships and weapons that Matt told me about today !) The editors run inside ResEdit in system 7.0 to OSX under the cool classic thread. They are all Cookie CompatibleΒ. And they even include a spelling checker for the descs. EVO and EV RSSC editors are starting to be put together (3 new EVO ones so far)
ConText and ResStore - these will become mainstays for large plugin development - they allow you to use Excel to edit plugins as spreadsheets! ConText exports resources to Excel and ResStore turns Excel sheets back into resources. Multiple plugin/data files are handled. Great for large scale changes or comparisions across many resources - ie sorting weapons by their damage and making sure they are all balanced. They are up to alpha 17!
Port Authority is going to be EV and EVO compatible!
Other tools include:
Mish/Mash (guess! ),
Several sprite conversion and formatting tools( 5 of them) .
Validation Tools: ShipShape (ship resource validator) , Mission BitMap II (new mission string mapper) & Duped (checks for duplicate resources across multiple files, will work for EV and EVO as well)
Mysteries: LETT2TEXT and TEXT2LETT
I'll hopefully get copies to Nova beta testers. A general release date is not decided yet.
Cheers DrRalph (and Rodger)
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(This message has been edited by DrRalph (edited 05-14-2001).)
ooo...mighty purdy...can't wait to get my paws on them. As for Mish/Mash...hmm, could it be an application that puts all the different files into a single plug file?
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I would use such a topic to complain that a new version of Mission Control hasn't been released yet, but it seems I already have....
Anyway, good luck with Nova. I hope to try those editors out as soon as they become available to the general public.
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You guys are amazing. I'm sure the editors will help out all us plug developers greatly.
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Originally posted by DrRalph: **3) Port Authority is going to be EV and EVO compatible! **
Score! It's about time we had a good editor for it.
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Originally posted by the Necromicon: As for Mish/Mash...hmm, could it be an application that puts all the different files into a single plug file?
Nope.
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Cool. They sound very nice. (I won't even try to guess what Mish/Mash is)
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Check out this collage of some of the editors for EV Nova that (url="http://"http://www.sutherland-studios.com.au/family/sgg.html")R&R; Software(/url) has produced...
R&R; Software's cool EV Nova ResEditors
Originally posted by andrew: **Check out this collage of some of the editors for EV Nova that R &R; Software has produced...
<CENTER><A HREF="/cgi-bin/custom/imagedisplay.pl?image=evn_editors.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="/news/upcoming/images/evn_editors_thumb.gif" WIDTH="160" HEIGHT="160" ALT="evn_editors.jpg" BORDER="0"></A> <FONT FACE="Geneva, Arial, Veranda" SIZE="1" COLOR="#555555">R&R; Software's cool EV Nova ResEditors</FONT></CENTER>
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Wow! I cant wait :frown:
Hmmm... isn't it cruel. The collage is nice and small and difficult to read...
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There are some new kinds of resources. Would you explain what they change inthe game???
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Why don't you try looking at them and see if you can figure it out for yourself...
It looks nice. Much nicer than that dumb, stupid, retarded, spooty EV Edit.
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Originally posted by Starkiller: **It looks nice. Much nicer than that dumb, stupid, retarded, spooty EV Edit.
Two things:
Don't be too mean to EVEdit until you have tried to make a serious editor tool yourself, Ben actually comes close to making a 'ResEdit' app, a feat that required a team at Apple to do for real. It is flawed, but it is actually a complex application by one person so it isn't suprising. I learned a lot from looking at EVEdit.
Don't forget that these editor windows all appear inside ResEdit, so you can also access the PICTs and STR#s, cicns and so on that you need with the editors already in ResEdit. You can also open up multiple editor windows at a time and you can print them out from ResEdit! Infact I gained a lot of really cool functionality due to the great efforts of the Apple ResEdit dev team. So don't forget to thank them too...
Cheers DrRalph
Originally posted by Sundered Angel: Hmmm... isn't it cruel. The collage is nice and small and difficult to read...
Here's what I could make out from that mission desc:
You feel a familiar tap on your shoulder and you turn to see a young soldier who informs you that you have to go to <DST> in the <DSY> system. Commander Krane will meet you there.
At the mention of her name, a (can't make out the word) dread rises up in your stomach, and once again you realize the hopelessness of your situation. As they have done many times already during your short time of enslavement, the dark hands that enclose your mind twist you into thoughtlessly obeying the commands given to you.
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Originally posted by skyblade: **Here's what I could make out from that mission desc:
I believe the word you couldn't make out was "nameless"...
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Just so you know...
Originally posted by DrRalph: **Two things:
Hear hear!
EV Edit is an amazing utility, and as admitted, it is indeed imperfect, but it is an invaluable asset, especially to plugin makers who have just started, or people who want to get a sneak peak at either the game itself or someone's plug-in in a more understandable format than ResEdit. Someone without experience with ResEdit, for example, wouldn't have the slightest clue how to make a plug-in, and EV Edit allows you to do that.
Do you think Ben Chess will make an editor for EVN? it seems unnecessary, since there will be an official editor...
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