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Originally posted by Captain Carnotaur: **Actually, as I have stated and proven through experiments (unless my memory is really bad), the Voinian Cruiser CAN defeat the UE Cruiser if given the right circumstances. You also cannot put more UE fighters and hunter missiles on an AI-controlled ship. If you're talking about player-controlled ships, I can take out any UE ship, including the Cruiser, easily with a Voinian Cruiser. But that's only when I control the ship.
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and I seen manta's kill named kesteral and confed crussers on there own, and rebel fleets in sol system in EV. all given the right circumstances. I also seen one detroyer take out meny frigite givin the circumsatncees. try 4-6 destoyers piled on each other? they all share the damage, so you can't kill any one of them. anf yes, controld by computer booth. if it was me vs comp I myself can kill a a frigete, and maybe a crusser in s suttle armed with 3 blaster cannon's. I can do it for sure in a scout armed with noting but 2 phase turrets and a couple blase cannon's, but this is comp's vs comp. by that i sene one on one carrer vs carrer and the UE have one almost all the time.
oh and as for adding missiles and heavey rockets, you don't need to. when the us figher dockes with the mother ship/carrer it gets reset tothe orginal factory settings, inlcuding missiles and rockes, but none are taken form the carrer that lanched it. as they are lauched and fly faster, the time they spend out of battle is triveal. all the figher can go back to ther ship ther from, reload and relauch in seconds. it takes the voinons forever to do the same thing, while there power is redused to a small fraction of what it'snotal firepoer is, and we'er back to the UE killing the fighers one by ono, while the UE is blasting the voinion ship to little to it's asebled parts.
I still use 1.0.1. So I am not sure if this goes for 1.0.2. In my version the Voinians only seem to fire their rockets in the front 90 degrees of their ships and not their neutron turrets. This really hurts their attack against shields. It seems to me that in a battle between a UE Capital ship and a Voinian capital ship the safest place for the UE ship is right in front of the Voinian ship. On a side note the Dreadnought only fires its rockets when my shields are down. Voinian fighters pack a lot of pop however 2 hunter missles will disable them every time (killing them at a distance), thus negating their fire power. Also their slow launch times tend to keep them from attacking as a pack which is a further limitation.
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(This message has been edited by Jubee (edited 02-25-2003).)
I used to be completely loyal to the UE, but that changed the more I played the game - too much like the Federation from Nova for my taste. I almost prefer playing Voinian now instead.
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Originally posted by Kyle Katarn: **I used to be completely loyal to the UE, but that changed the more I played the game - too much like the Federation from Nova for my taste. I almost prefer playing Voinian now instead.
What do you mean? UE doesnt have Bureau. If you mean the mess with governing Huron, which is better: administrative mess on one planet or enslaving all races they saw (Hinwar, Durala, and Tientu), gassing everyone on Iri because they resisted, conquering and warring with Emalgha just because they were hungry for resources, and warring with humanity for no reason. The UE may have its faults (thinking on strict trading regulations on Saalian Brandy too), but its better than barbarians that dont even have honor like Aurorans.
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Cade, he just meant that he preferred playing as Voinians. That does not mean that he agrees with their moral code or anything like that; he just likes playing as them. I think the Bureau is scum, but I still prefer playing as Federation. I think the Aurorans are barbaric scum, but I still think their ships are cool (with the exception somewhat of the Auroran cruiser, which is somewhat ugly) and I enjoy playing as them.
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Originally posted by Captain Carnotaur: **Cade, he just meant that he preferred playing as Voinians. That does not mean that he agrees with their moral code or anything like that; he just likes playing as them. I think the Bureau is scum, but I still prefer playing as Federation. I think the Aurorans are barbaric scum, but I still think their ships are cool (with the exception somewhat of the Auroran cruiser, which is somewhat ugly) and I enjoy playing as them.
Hmm.. Interesting that some comparisons that are being made between the Bureau/Feds and the UEs. I'd always seen the Federation as being a much deeper, seedier organization than the UEs. Everything with the UEs is clean cut and orderly- very bureaucratic, maybe with the exception of D'Erlon, who seems to do whatever, whenever. The only difference between the UEs and Voinians are the humanistic elements to the UEs. They see the good and prosperity that can be achieved, while the Voinians see the wealth and expansion that can be achieved. I always sort of struggled with just what the Voinians were after in fighting the UEs- the game never really gives any sort of indication. It's more of a "They were there.." sort of explanation. The UEs are the same way, though an argument could certainly be made that the UEs are only defending themselves- but then why do they go on the offensive in EVO..? To save the Hinwar/Emalgha, perhaps. But perhaps not. Territory, maybe.
With the Federation and the Aurorans, they are so much further from one another not only in goals, but also in characteristics and appearance.
Interesting stuff, the world of EV/O/N politics.
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Indeed, that's the sum of my thoughts. The Voinians are basically space barbarians yet I do prefer playing as them. Perhaps my journey to the Dark Side is underway.
You prefer playing Auroran also, Carno? Same here.
Originally posted by Kyle Katarn: **Indeed, that's the sum of my thoughts. The Voinians are basically space barbarians yet I do prefer playing as them. Perhaps my journey to the Dark Side is underway.;)
Okay, if it you just like to play as them, its OK. I played them too. And their Cruiser rocks. With all armor, speed, and turrets upgrades, it can take down UE Carriers down easily without fighters or rockets, which would stock be a very dangerous thing to do. Your journey to darkness is underway? You frighten me! Hope you wont get too deep in darkness...
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: **Okay, if it you just like to play as them, its OK. I played them too. And their Cruiser rocks. With all armor, speed, and turrets upgrades, it can take down UE Carriers down easily without fighters or rockets, which would stock be a very dangerous thing to do. Your journey to darkness is underway? You frighten me! Hope you wont get too deep in darkness...
Take it easy, man. We can take our computer games too seriously sometimes.
Originally posted by Kyle Katarn: **Take it easy, man. We can take our computer games too seriously sometimes.:D
Oops. Should have included sarcasm tags and rolling eyes smileys. It was ridiculous, so you should have been able to it was just a ridiculous joke.
Originally posted by Kyle Katarn: **You prefer playing Auroran also, Carno? Same here. **
Not exactly. They're kinda fun to play, but I prefer Feds over Aurorans.
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: **Oops. Should have included sarcasm tags and rolling eyes smileys. It was ridiculous, so you should have been able to it was just a ridiculous joke.
Eh, depends. It's hard to determine who's just Override-crazy or sarcastic around here sometimes.
Carno: Bleh, the 'Feds are wicked, man. I can't stand them. Heh.
Originally posted by Kyle Katarn: **Eh, depends. It's hard to determine who's just Override-crazy or sarcastic around here sometimes.:p
What do you mean by its hard to determine who is Override-crazy or sarcastic sometimes?
Originally posted by General Cade Smart: **What do you mean by its hard to determine who is Override-crazy or sarcastic sometimes?
Search results from Cap'n Kyle's Dictionary:
Override-crazy: A gamer with deep addiction and dediction to ASW's EVO. Causes mind control in the realm of government service, ship preference, and race opinions. Known to cause cancer is laboratory animals.
Sarcastic: One who obviously or unclearly turns a statement into something other than its original meaning - intended to be funny. Knows the difference between addiction to computer games and good humor.
Er, that was my 1998 edition. The 2003 will be on the market in a few weeks.